"Yet hope remains while all the Company is true"

[The Gaffer]

OK, but does it say that Galadriel knew what each was being tempted with?

[Attalus]

Well, she was tempting them using a highly developed mental power, not using some sort of Auto-Detect function. She read their minds to see what each would want, and then offered it to them as an alternative to going on the Quest.

[Haradrim]

Yeah I toally agree but I also think that many of their desries corresponded directly to the ring. So she may have used both as an extra precautionary thingimigig.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I don't think she tempted the hobbits with the Ring even if she did the other members.

[Haradrim]

well she definately tempted Frodo withthe ring. The removal of the ring. But you are right. Sam wanted more than anything to go home and marry Rosie Cotton and to have children. and Merry and Pip just wanted to havea good time.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I wouldn't say she tempted Frodo with the Ring I'd say she tempted him without the Ring if you get my meaning.

[Haradrim]

But the ring is still there. he wanted more than anything not to have the ring so she probably shwoed him what that would be like. Therefore the ring is part of the temptation but its the opposite of Boromirs temptation.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

But had he said he acctepted do you think he would have been ably to give it away. I mean I get the picture that part of the reason h accepted the quest is so that he could stay with the Ring a little while longer.

[Haradrim]

oh I disagree with that last part. I mean maybe a little but not so much that without better reasons he would have done it. Also I think he could have given it up at that point. It would have been hard but I think he could have done it.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yet only three days from then he couldn't give it to Boromir.

[Haradrim]

That is a faulty argument cause he knew what Boromir would do with it. ANd he knew it wouldnt be good. He thoguth maybe Gakadruek could control it or something

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

But Gandalf told him that he (a Maia) couldn't control it so why would an elf of the Noldor be able to.

[Haradrim]

Im sure he didnt know what Gandalf really was. I mean its never really explained to Frodo until like the third book so there is no way. I mean he may have even thoguth GAladriel was more ppowerful. There is no way to know.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Maybe but I thought Sam put it best in the Fellowship when he was explaining what Frodo would do if the quest wasn't so important.

[Haradrim]

Yeah that was actually quite moving. Just rea that over again. Sam has sucha way with words. No wonder he became mayor of the shire.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yeah but his Dad was Gaffer Gamgee so it must run in the family.

[Haradrim]

yeah you are right the GAffer always struck me as someone who was good with words. I mean he probably had all kind sof clever puns and witty remarks. SO SAm probably did inherit it from the GAffer. Also is the Gaffer his real name?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yeah Gaffers provers are classics

[Haradrim]

yeah If i were to have a father in LOTR it would definately be him because h has a ll thos efunny words of wisdom

[Attalus]

I don't think that Merry and Pippin were only out for a good time. They could have stayed in the Shire and done that. They could easily have gone back from Rivendell. They came out of loyalty to Frodo and because they knew how important the Quest was. I am quite certain that Frodo could have given the Ring to Galadriel if he had wanted. It had not begun to grip on him so, and Bilbo gave it up after bearing it a much, much longer time, though not without a wrench.