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Old 07-09-2004, 07:06 AM   #41
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Come to think of it, I hope we ALSO get to see the one ugly orc commander at the siege of Minas Tirith meet his end. In the theatrical, we just assume he dies somewhere along the way, since the entire black army is wiped away. Surprising though to build up a baddie and not actually show him getting 'offed'... I suspect it was filmed but then cut from theatrical.
As a rule I don't gamble, but does anyone want to lay odds on who gets to take him out?

In the theatrical cut, we don't see him anymore after the charge of the Rohirrim. Our last view of him shows this *shocked / scared* look as the Rohirrim close.

I'm thinking Eomer gets him - because there's that cut of him taking a spear from someone at just about the time we see the last cut of the ugly orc guy (like any of them are other than ugly).

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Theoden - he's leading the charge and the movie really plays up his heroism
Eowyn - might be a nice touch
Merry - One for the Shire! (and Eomer thought he had no business there - by the movie anyhow)

Someone else - always possible

Not shown - now THAT would be regretable!
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I saw the Eomer crying scene - I'm betting (and hoping) it's over his sister.

I think we've seen the Merry pledging to Theoden scene from day 1, but it's still not in any of the movies! Prob. will be in extended ROTK.

More Faramir and Eowyn! I hope so, at least.

Also I hope the Mouth of Sauron scene will get in.

I've been so happy with the other 2 extended versions, I'm getting anxious for this one to come out! And then a giant LOTR party!! with all three extended versions and loads of food and lots of fun!
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I'd like to see what Sam does in the Green Dragon that elicits such glee from Frode, Pippin and Merry when he goes over to Rosie at the bar. I assume it's a kiss, but it'd be fun to see his change from shyness to assertive returning hero.
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I like how they DON'T show it! I think it was Hitchcock who talked about the power of NOT showing something; that leaving it to the viewer's imagination was more powerful...
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I agree with you there Rian... our imagination probably captures it best, and if they show it, it might not measure up to what we imagined, and therefore be disappointing.

I expect that yes, it WAS a kiss. Probably noteworthy enough to be joked about for years... and to give him the notoriety to propel him into politics (Al Gore and Tipper, step aside!)... and seven victories in mayoral elections!

*Warning* - Fellas, be VERY cautious about trying this yourself. These days, if the girl is not receptive and doesn't reciprocate (and I expect both cases were so for Rosie), you'll be slapped with charges of 'harrassment'!
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Old 07-26-2004, 03:16 PM   #46
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I expect that yes, it WAS a kiss.
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I'd like to see what Sam does in the Green Dragon that elicits such glee from Frode, Pippin and Merry when he goes over to Rosie at the bar. I assume it's a kiss, but it'd be fun to see his change from shyness to assertive returning hero.
C'mon, a kiss? What is she some wh.ore who dishes out kisses to guys that come up to her? They're (Frodo and gang) laughing at the fact that he finally got the balls to go talk to her...
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:23 AM   #47
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C'mon, a kiss? What is she some wh.ore who dishes out kisses to guys that come up to her? They're (Frodo and gang) laughing at the fact that he finally got the balls to go talk to her...
Can't agree with you there, Telcontar. No, she's not a loose woman, she
knows and is friendly with Sam. And the looks that Frodo and the gang give clearly indicate that he does something more unexpected than go up and say hi. I will leave it to your imaginations, as Rian suggests.
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Can't agree with you there, Telcontar. No, she's not a loose woman, she knows and is friendly with Sam. And the looks that Frodo and the gang give clearly indicate that he does something more unexpected than go up and say hi. I will leave it to your imaginations, as Rian suggests.
I would almost be willing to put a wager to prove how wrong you guys (& gals) are. There's no way Sam would do that. He's a respectable guy and so is she. He's one of those types that doesn't kiss until the second date. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Frodo and the gang started laughing at Sam cuz he finally had the courage to go up to her and talk to her. If you remember Bilbo's party in FOTR, Sam would barely even look her in the eye until Frodo pushed him to dance with her. That example proves his shyness.
Besides, every situation I've ever seen or been involved with, I have noticed people do the same giggly thing when their friend goes up and talks to the person they have a crush on. I've never seen anyone just go up and start kissing someone they weren't in a relationship with (unless they were at a bar at closing time and trying to hook up).
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Old 07-27-2004, 02:07 PM   #49
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I don't think a wager would work... because I don't think we'll see any more of it. I think we're supposed to think it's a kiss. I don't think Rosie would have taken kindly to just anyone doing that... but I think she liked Sam (even the movie version of Rosie) and was happy to have him overcome his shyness and make a bold move like that.

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We could ask Sam, but as Sean Astin says, "I'm not him." Maybe the EE will help us out.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:31 PM   #51
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I have heard that there might also be a scene between Boromir, Faramir and Denethor -- sort of a flashback concerning the reason Boromir goes to Rivendell and a bit of background on the relationship between the three of them.

I have no idea if this is true. My friend and fanatic movie and fangirl told me this. She's usually pretty reliable in her information.

(but she hasn't read the books. just the cliff notes version!!!!!!!! *sigh*)
In all honesty, I've seen the EEs of both FotR and TTT, and that was in the TTT EE. It's in the part where (In the Theatrical one) Faramir's sitting there and thinking before waking up Frodo after Gollum was found.
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i would love to see gandalf breaking sarumanns staff! one of my favourite scenes in the book! 'sarumann, your staff is broken!'
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Im not entirely sure the staff breaking will happen. Seeing is how Sauruman dies within this same scean it would kind of be redundant. Not to mention as I understand it, Saruman will be in a high balcony looking down at them, Gandalf would have no way to get the staff and break it. As well as Grima is soposedly the one who pushes Saruman to his death from the balcony. But the staff breaking may be in there yet. I hope so, anything to make the films closer to the books is good as i see it!(wish there couldb e a scouring of the shire though *sigh*)
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I remember hearing something about Peter Jackson having a short fight scene with one of the major characters...I hope its Gimli that would be awesome to see the captain of the Corsairs fight Gimli. So I guess this means that the army of the dead does fight the corsairs at Pelargir....I hope

Oh and I found this a while back Maybe the Scouring of the Shire exists as a seperatly filmed alternate death of Curunir(Saruman)????that would be amazing.
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Old 08-14-2004, 06:29 AM   #55
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Oh and I found this a while back Maybe the Scouring of the Shire exists as a seperatly filmed alternate death of Curunir(Saruman)????that would be amazing.
Why do you think that has something to do with saruman's death? It seems just a pic of the four hobbits when they return to the Shire.
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I know...I was just getting my hopes up...When I got the pic, they took it off the site the day they posted it so I thought maybe it was something important that wasnt suppose to be seen. Who knows...Peter Jackson loves to suprise us.
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The scouring of the shire is a story in its own right, and it would have taken too much time to do properly, I'm sorry it won't be in there but at the same time I'm glad that PJ didn't slam it in.

The gaping hole in the plot is the reason behind Denethor's despair and advancing madness, and I'm sure that (Palantir) will be addressed.

Also missing is the confrontation of Gandalf and the witch king. Incidentally I hope tWK is not going to break Gandalf's staff.

I also have a pic of Eowyn lying on a bed touching Aragorn's face, which I'm sure is in the houses of the healing, which would lead me to believe the reason for the Eomer bawling scene is finding his sister who he thinks is dead. Remember Eowyn and Merry clutching their arms right after they struck the witch king?

We also see Faramir standing with Eowyn at Aragorn's coronation. I'm sure we'll see more.

PJ loves to do the baddies, and his baddies are very entertaining, so I am sure he's going to "unveil" his new villain the mouth of Sauron. I've seen pics of his bust and the descriptions in this thread are very true to what I've seen.

My bet is Theoden is the one who skewers Gothmog (the orc with the bad case of neurofibromatosis). It would be fitting-- just a hunch.

Last but not least I really hope we see Ghan Buri Ghan. How about Robin Williams in the role?
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They definitly do have the MoS because I have a book on the movies and it has a section on him and what he does in RotK.
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Ghan Buri Ghan was in the cast before the movie came out according to IMDB.com but they took the actors name away once the real cast was givin so maybe they do got him in the movie....I hope.
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On a different site I just saw the following:

* December 14 release (pre-order, I think they said Sept 10)
* Saw both 50 minutes additional and 49 minutes additional - little enough difference
* Suggested retail of $39.99!!

Treat this as a rumor, but hopefully reliable info. I just didn't get it first-hand.
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