The Sundering of the Tolkien Fans

[Draken]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
azalea: Actually, a friend of a friend of mine got a copy of TTT from her dad, who got in Quwait (or however you spell it)!!! Maybe Draken has found a similar copy. Have you? Huh, buddy?

Sadly not, let me know where to get one!

[Wayfarer]

in the wheel of time The Children of the Light are a psychotic gruop of purits who supposedly walk in the light but everyone hates

"Do I smell a darkfreind!? Inquisitor!"

You know, I think the analogy is very apt.

[LuthienTinuviel]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Dear LuthienTinuviel.

Your "angry woman" ploy to gain my interest is flattering. But I'm taken, babe. Sorry.

Your friend,
BB

please die so that i may piss upon your grave

and to all the good people in this thread, ME did exist, well does exist... remember, everyone thought that troy was a myth until they found it....

[Dunadan]

For some reason, that's not how I imagined Beren's better half would behave.

and doom fell on Tinuviel that lay in his arms glistening

Oh, I see; it's all becoming clear now

[azalea]

Originally posted by Draken
Sadly not, let me know where to get one!

OR you could become a projectionist in a movie theater and freeze frame it at every showing! I know at least the male audience members wouldn't mind!

[Elf Girl]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem And DUH! Of COURSE LotR is real! It happened 7000 years ago! That's, Like, SO obvious!

I object! I was living in Lorien whenn it happened 3000 years ago!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Hmm, didn't see your previous post before, Elf Girl, sorry.

First off, allow me to introduce an in-between view of the Jacksonites: They are Radagastians, for like Radagast, they were sent with a good and true mission, but grew to love something - that is in and of itself good - too much, and fell away from their true quest. Somewhere between Children of Light and Apostates, fair?

Anyway, the Radagastians - that I have heard at least - all extol the virtues of Jackson, and speak of how he perfectly captured Middle-Earth, and how he improved upon it (including Jackson himself). I have yet to hear a Jacksonite say that there was a single thing which he did do perfectly. If he did everything perfectly, and improved upon it, then that basically means that PJ's movies are better than Tolkien's books.

Allow me to introduce yet another category:

The Interpretational Tolkienite - These followers love the epic tale told by J. R. R. Tolkien; they also love the films made by PJ, because they are (at least an interpretation of) Lord of the Rings.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
I believe that category would be Anybody With Good Taste in Cinema

]: )

Oh, and also:

I resent that!

[Earniel]

Too many categories = one very confused Eärniel

Even all the schisma's in the catholic church fall into nothing compared to this 'sundering'. New categories are mushrooming.

A nice try at defining the different types of tolkien fans, BB. Too bad you had to make it so darn obvious in which group you place yourself.

*counts the number of times the word 'purist' is used in the first post for fun*

[Elfhelm]

It's a funny post, but like all extended analogies it it too didactic and implies judgement from a source incapable of such.

Children of the Light are the ones who dwell in Valinor, not the ones who sit in darkness. I believe Plato's myth of the cave is a more relevant analogy for those people. Cave dwellers they should be called.

I like the movies, but wish I could have affected the script a little.

[Elvedans]

Can I be a Read-the-Hobbit-then-saw-the-lord-of-the-rings-movie-then-read-all-the-books-and-loves-both-and-thinks-that-Tolkien-is-the-master-of-all-things-middle-earth-but-pj-made-a-very-valiant-effort-and-did-quite-a-good-job-but-cannot-surpass-tolkien-Purist???

[Wayfarer]

I resent that!

Oh?

The fact is that while the movies (especially the first one) had a few good parts, they were pretty bad movies overall. They would have been much worse if they were not based on the books.

Let's be honest, I didn't like the two towers for the same reason I didn't like episode two; because it was a stupid movie with no plot development and a bunch of gratuitous crap slanted to appeal to stupid people.

No offense intended, of course.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I meant that I enjoy good cinema, but I liked the movies. I certainly don't claim that they were stupendous movies, but I'm a fantasy nut, and love anything fantasy. Though I think that the first (calling them by numbers instead of names helps separate them ) was pretty good, there wasn't really any good plot that I can think of in TTT.

I thought Ep. II was good, except for the parts with Anakin and Amidala. IMO, WAAAAAY overdone. He looked like a predator more than a lovestruck boy!

But anyway, it's not necessary to be so critical; just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people who like them are stupid people who don't have good taste in cinema.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

BTW, I must admit I'm curious: what's your idea of good cinema?

[Elf.Freak]

I am a BORN AGAIN PURIST! yay!

[Elfhelm]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
The fact is...
... a bunch of gratuitous crap slanted to appeal to stupid people.

That's an opinion, not a fact.

Why do you even read and post on the movie board?

No offense, to you either (I don't happen to think I'm a stupid person), but I think you just like to argue.