Quote Game - Part 11 - Page 3

***Valandil*** · 05-04-2010, 07:45 PM

"This last then I will say to you, thrall Morgoth,
and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar
but is put into my heart in this hour.
You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be,
though all Arda and /_e_e_ / fall in your dominion.
Beyond the Circles of the World you shall not
pursue those who refuse you."

Speaker: Hurin?

Midge · 05-05-2010, 10:34 AM

All additions are correct! Just the one word left.

***Valandil*** · 05-07-2010, 02:03 PM

Argh! I'm honestly not being coy. I tried to solve it, but can't get the one word. It's tough when you get all - or mostly - vowels. I can see that two "e's" is especially hard!

Midge · 05-07-2010, 07:23 PM

It's funny, now that I'm over in the UT discussion thread, we're talking about words that seem to be based on this root word: a King and a Mountain...

If that ain't a hint enough, let me know and I'll give it up.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-07-2010, 07:55 PM

menel ?
The root word might be different, though ...

Midge · 05-07-2010, 08:14 PM

No. Menel it is. I was referring to Tar-Meneldur, and Meneltarma.

I don't know exactly what the word means, only that Tar-Meneldur was called so because he was considered wise.

Oh, yeah. Your turn, Varna.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-08-2010, 05:37 PM

"A_l/_a_e/_h_i_/w_r_h/,/_n_/e_c_/c_n_r_b_t_s/_o/_h_/w_r_h/
_f/_h_/o_h_r_/./B_t/_h_/k_l_a_/c_n/_l_e/_r/_e_e_d/_h_m_e_v_s/,/
_h_r_a_/t_e/_l_a_/t_a_/g_o_/c_n_o_/./A_d/_m_n_/t_e_e/_/h_l_/
t_e_s/_e_r/./_o_g/_n/_h_/g_o_i_g/,/_w_f_/s_a_l/_h_y/_e/_n/_h_/
f_l_i_g/,/_n_/u_l_s_/t_e_/p_y/_o_l/_i_h/_r_i_/u_o_/b_u_h/
_i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/./S_/I/_e_/i_/m_/t_o_g_t/./
_o_l_/t_a_/t_e/_r_e_/m_g_t/_p_a_/o_/b_h_l_/o_/a_l/_h_n_s/
_h_t/_a_e/_o_t_/,/a_d/_u_i_h/_h_s_/t_a_/w_o_g/_h_m/!/"

***Valandil*** · 05-08-2010, 08:30 PM

"All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth
of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves,
whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold
trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the
felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough
/_i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought.
Would (wood!

) that the tress might /_p_a_/ or behold on all things
that have /_o_t_/, and /_u_i_h/ those that wrong them!"

I think it's a Varda quote.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-08-2010, 08:41 PM

There are some mistakes in the last line but one - "tress", and "or behold on".
Also, it's not a Varda quote ...

Otherwise, all is correct.

(Wood is correct in the spirit, but as you point out, not in the letter.

)

***Valandil*** · 05-08-2010, 10:18 PM

Yes - I meant Yavanna. I just mixed up the names.

"All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth
of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves,
whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold
trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the
felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough
/_i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought.
Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things
that have /_o_t_/, and /_u_i_h/ those that wrong them!"

Midge · 05-09-2010, 12:03 AM

it's not kilian and ilian?

felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough
/little/_o_r_e_/in/their/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought.

punish those that wrong them.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-09-2010, 05:04 PM

Yavanna it is. And your other corrections are right as well, Val.

No, it's not kilian and ilian.
But your other additions are right, Midge.

So now we've got

"All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth
of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves,
whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold
trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the
felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough
little /_o_r_e_/ in their /_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought.
Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things
that have /_o_t_/, and punish those that wrong them!"

***Valandil*** · 05-09-2010, 09:58 PM

"passing" and "roots" - I wish I could get that '_o_r_e_' - I'm sure it ends with 'ed' but it can't be 'honored' (though that would make sense).

Like Midge, I know those first two missing words are the same except for that additional letter - but I don't remember at all how those words are structured otherwise.

***Earniel*** · 05-10-2010, 08:20 AM

'kelvar', 'olvar', 'toll' and 'fruit'.

Midge · 05-10-2010, 10:03 AM

Just reiterating, I guess. I was going to try to get the last word, but I can't think of it. I didn't want to let all my hard work (

) go to waste.

"All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth
of the other. But the kelvar can flee or defend themselves,
whereas the olvar that grow cannot. And among these I hold
trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the
felling, and unless they pay toll with fruit upon bough
little /_o_r_e_/ in their passing. So I see in my thought.
Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things
that have roots, and punish those that wrong them!"

Edit: Ohhh.. "mourned"!

***Varnafindë*** · 05-11-2010, 04:55 AM

That's it!

Your turn, Midge!

Midge · 05-12-2010, 12:19 AM

"M_/K_n_/,/C_r_o_/i_/d_a_/a_d/_r_t_n/_s/_y_n_/./
Y_u_/l_s_/c_u_s_l_o_/m_s_/a_v_s_/n_y/_o_m_n_/y_u/,/
_s/_o_/c_m_a_d_d/_h_a_/./G_/!/T_k_/y_u_/b_r_e_/,/
a_d/_t/_l_/c_s_s/_r_n_/i_/t_/t_e/_e_p_r_/:/
e_e_/a_/t_e/_o_t/_f/_b_n_o_i_g/_o_r/_e_/a_d/_e/!/"

***Earniel*** · 05-12-2010, 06:52 AM

"My King,/C_r_o_/is dead and/_r_t_n/_s/_y_n_/. Your last c_u_s_l_o_/must advise nay command you, as you commanded/_h_a_/. Go! Take your burden, and at all costs/_r_n_/it to the/_e_p_r_/: even as the/_o_t/_f/_b_n_o_i_g/_o_r/_e_/and/_e/!/"

***Valandil*** · 05-12-2010, 07:44 AM

"My King, Cirion is dead and Aratan is dying.
Your last counsellor must advise nay command you,
as you commanded Ohtar. Go! Take your burden,
and at all costs bring it to the Keepers:
even at the cost of abandoning your men and me!"

Speaker: Elendur, son of Isildur, to Isildur

Midge · 05-12-2010, 10:04 AM

Yeah, Val, I thought you'd get most of the more difficult parts of that one. It comes from the chapter you're going to discuss in the UT. All is now correct (including the speaker) except for the spelling of the two names in the first line (both are only one letter off). However, I don't think you were just guessing at the names. Should I give it to you, since they're not "incorrect words" (like "far" instead of "for") or should I make you spell them correctly too? I don't know the policy on this.

This book (UT) is SO good, once you get past the never-ending Narn i hin Hurin.

05-04-2010, 07:45 PM	#41
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"This last then I will say to you, thrall Morgoth, and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar but is put into my heart in this hour. You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be, though all Arda and /_e_e_ / fall in your dominion. Beyond the Circles of the World you shall not pursue those who refuse you." Speaker: Hurin? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-05-2010, 10:34 AM	#42
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	All additions are correct! Just the one word left. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

05-07-2010, 02:03 PM	#43
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Argh! I'm honestly not being coy. I tried to solve it, but can't get the one word. It's tough when you get all - or mostly - vowels. I can see that two "e's" is especially hard! __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-07-2010, 07:23 PM	#44
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	It's funny, now that I'm over in the UT discussion thread, we're talking about words that seem to be based on this root word: a King and a Mountain... If that ain't a hint enough, let me know and I'll give it up. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

05-07-2010, 07:55 PM	#45
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	menel ? The root word might be different, though ... __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-07-2010, 08:14 PM	#46
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	No. Menel it is. I was referring to Tar-Meneldur, and Meneltarma. I don't know exactly what the word means, only that Tar-Meneldur was called so because he was considered wise. Oh, yeah. Your turn, Varna. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

05-08-2010, 05:37 PM	#47
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	"A_l/_a_e/_h_i_/w_r_h/,/_n_/e_c_/c_n_r_b_t_s/_o/_h_/w_r_h/ _f/_h_/o_h_r_/./B_t/_h_/k_l_a_/c_n/_l_e/_r/_e_e_d/_h_m_e_v_s/,/ _h_r_a_/t_e/_l_a_/t_a_/g_o_/c_n_o_/./A_d/_m_n_/t_e_e/_/h_l_/ t_e_s/_e_r/./_o_g/_n/_h_/g_o_i_g/,/_w_f_/s_a_l/_h_y/_e/_n/_h_/ f_l_i_g/,/_n_/u_l_s_/t_e_/p_y/_o_l/_i_h/_r_i_/u_o_/b_u_h/ _i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/./S_/I/_e_/i_/m_/t_o_g_t/./ _o_l_/t_a_/t_e/_r_e_/m_g_t/_p_a_/o_/b_h_l_/o_/a_l/_h_n_s/ _h_t/_a_e/_o_t_/,/a_d/_u_i_h/_h_s_/t_a_/w_o_g/_h_m/!/" __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-08-2010, 08:30 PM	#48
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves, whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough /_i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought. Would (wood! ) that the tress might /_p_a_/ or behold on all things that have /_o_t_/, and /_u_i_h/ those that wrong them!" I think it's a Varda quote. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-08-2010, 08:41 PM	#49
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	There are some mistakes in the last line but one - "tress", and "or behold on". Also, it's not a Varda quote ... Otherwise, all is correct. (Wood is correct in the spirit, but as you point out, not in the letter. ) __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-08-2010, 10:18 PM	#50
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Yes - I meant Yavanna. I just mixed up the names. "All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves, whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough /_i_t_e/_o_r_e_/i_/t_e_r/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought. Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that have /_o_t_/, and /_u_i_h/ those that wrong them!" __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-09-2010, 12:03 AM	#51
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	it's not kilian and ilian? felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough /little/_o_r_e_/in/their/_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought. punish those that wrong them. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

05-09-2010, 05:04 PM	#52
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Yavanna it is. And your other corrections are right as well, Val. No, it's not kilian and ilian. But your other additions are right, Midge. So now we've got "All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth of the other. But the /k_l_a_/ can flee or defend themselves, whereas the /_l_a_/ that grow cannot. And among these I hold trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the felling, and unless they pay /_o_l/ with /_r_i_/ upon bough little /_o_r_e_/ in their /_a_s_n_/. So I see in my thought. Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that have /_o_t_/, and punish those that wrong them!" __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-09-2010, 09:58 PM	#53
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"passing" and "roots" - I wish I could get that '_o_r_e_' - I'm sure it ends with 'ed' but it can't be 'honored' (though that would make sense). Like Midge, I know those first two missing words are the same except for that additional letter - but I don't remember at all how those words are structured otherwise. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-10-2010, 08:20 AM	#54
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	'kelvar', 'olvar', 'toll' and 'fruit'. __________________ We are not things.

05-10-2010, 10:03 AM	#55
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Just reiterating, I guess. I was going to try to get the last word, but I can't think of it. I didn't want to let all my hard work () go to waste. "All have their worth, and each contributes to the worth of the other. But the kelvar can flee or defend themselves, whereas the olvar that grow cannot. And among these I hold trees dear. Long in the growing, swift shall they be in the felling, and unless they pay toll with fruit upon bough little /_o_r_e_/ in their passing. So I see in my thought. Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that have roots, and punish those that wrong them!" Edit: Ohhh.. "mourned"! __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 05-10-2010 at 10:04 AM.

05-11-2010, 04:55 AM	#56
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	That's it! Your turn, Midge! __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-12-2010, 12:19 AM	#57
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	"M_/K_n_/,/C_r_o_/i_/d_a_/a_d/_r_t_n/_s/_y_n_/./ Y_u_/l_s_/c_u_s_l_o_/m_s_/a_v_s_/n_y/_o_m_n_/y_u/,/ _s/_o_/c_m_a_d_d/_h_a_/./G_/!/T_k_/y_u_/b_r_e_/,/ a_d/_t/_l_/c_s_s/_r_n_/i_/t_/t_e/_e_p_r_/:/ e_e_/a_/t_e/_o_t/_f/_b_n_o_i_g/_o_r/_e_/a_d/_e/!/" __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

05-12-2010, 06:52 AM	#58
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	"My King,/C_r_o_/is dead and/_r_t_n/_s/_y_n_/. Your last c_u_s_l_o_/must advise nay command you, as you commanded/_h_a_/. Go! Take your burden, and at all costs/_r_n_/it to the/_e_p_r_/: even as the/_o_t/_f/_b_n_o_i_g/_o_r/_e_/and/_e/!/" __________________ We are not things.

05-12-2010, 07:44 AM	#59
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"My King, Cirion is dead and Aratan is dying. Your last counsellor must advise nay command you, as you commanded Ohtar. Go! Take your burden, and at all costs bring it to the Keepers: even at the cost of abandoning your men and me!" Speaker: Elendur, son of Isildur, to Isildur __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-12-2010, 10:04 AM	#60
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Yeah, Val, I thought you'd get most of the more difficult parts of that one. It comes from the chapter you're going to discuss in the UT. All is now correct (including the speaker) except for the spelling of the two names in the first line (both are only one letter off). However, I don't think you were just guessing at the names. Should I give it to you, since they're not "incorrect words" (like "far" instead of "for") or should I make you spell them correctly too? I don't know the policy on this. This book (UT) is SO good, once you get past the never-ending Narn i hin Hurin. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 05-12-2010 at 10:05 AM.