The Hobbit is Truly Official... - Page 3

Gordis · 01-03-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

Earniel, where do you want us? I'd like to continue, but I don't know where.

You know, Earniel has big SCISSORS and some glue

Please, Earniel!

***Earniel*** · 01-03-2008, 05:00 PM

EDIT: Never mind, I seem to have a different sort of tool now that can also split threads.

I have moved the posts concerning the LoTR movies to this thread:What all was wrong with PJ's LoTR which I think fits your discussion better. (Feel free to PM me if you disagree and we'll work something out.)

brownjenkins · 01-04-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

EDIT: Never mind, I seem to have a different sort of tool now that can also split threads.

Oh no! Another Val!!

The Gaffer · 02-08-2008, 01:30 PM

Guillermo del Toro (Pan' Labyrinth) may or may not direct this film:

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/02/...not-confirmed/

Loved Pan's Labyrinth. He would be excellent I think. Far better director than Jackson on previous form.

Belwen_of_nargothrond · 02-14-2008, 09:18 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/...olkien_lawsuit

I think you all should read this.

***Earniel*** · 02-15-2008, 01:00 PM

Ouch! That's gonna cost New Line big time. I wonder whether this new money dispute will hinder the filming of the Hobbit.

Gordis · 02-15-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Ouch! That's gonna cost New Line big time. I wonder whether this new money dispute will hinder the filming of the Hobbit.

I hope New Line will finally loose the rights to Tolkien production...

Kennashi · 04-13-2008, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

I hope New Line will finally loose the rights to Tolkien production...

Say, Gordis, who WOULD you prefer make the Hobbit?

Gordis · 04-13-2008, 04:59 PM

I don't know... I am not much of a movie goer.

I only hope it won't be PJ... again.

I also think a UK director would be better than an American for Tolkien's books: I like British adaptation of classics.

Telcontar · 10-23-2008, 05:15 PM

I don't think the PJ movies were bad at all. A true to the book movie would've been like a 30 hr movie (including Hobbit). I don't know anyone that would sit around watching a movie that long, except us nerds of course

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 10-27-2008, 02:41 PM

True to the book doesn't necessarily equal longer. Not at all. In fact, most of the bad stuff in PJ's movies were the things added in from his own imagination, not the parts of Tolkien that he left out.

Jon S. · 11-02-2008, 09:27 PM

Enough w/the PJ bashing! Back to the Hobbit movie. Is it progressing at this time or not?!

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 11-03-2008, 01:13 PM

Bashing? We've been polite in this thread. BTW, I've heard no indications that the movie is NOT progressing, so I assume it still is.

Jon S. · 11-03-2008, 02:33 PM

I was joshing there, m'friend.

hectorberlioz · 12-20-2008, 11:56 AM

Quick debate with the mods in the ether: does this thread go in the "movies" forum or The Hobbit forum?

In any case, I heard from my brother (he is Captain Of Movie News

that the producers and the Tolkiens were not agreeing on some things and that production for the movie has paused.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-20-2008, 11:41 PM

Just like the other three movies, I don't think the Tolkien Estate can do anything about whether these movies get made. What then *can* do is deny the rights to produce any Silm, HoME, or UT material. That will leave New Line with The Hobbit and Jackson/Walsh/Boyens' imagination as source material.

hectorberlioz · 12-20-2008, 11:53 PM

But surely Jackson can't just go around making up new storylines for Middle-Earth...

I've heard that he is developing an "in between" story to take place between The Hobbit and LOTR. Now, in more scholarly hands I would be ok with this. But I thought RotK was a failure in comparison to FotR, and I sort of gave up on him making The Hobbit faithfully. I expect it to be overblown and pompous.

*sigh*

And The Hobbit is my favorite JRRT book.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-21-2008, 10:58 PM

I'm honestly not sure how it all works from a legal standpoint. All I know is that the movie rights to LotR and The Hobbit were sold. Movie rights to other Tolkien Middle Earth works were not. How much invented material can be added to Hobbit movies in the name of artistic license without infringing on rights? And what if some of that material is pulled from UT or HoME? I don't know the answers to those questions but I would imagine the Tolkien Estate's lawyers do.

Butterbeer · 12-21-2008, 11:12 PM

you mean Jackson & Jackson and co?

..that'd be a smart move

..esp if there were still any lingering resentment with New line over Royalties ...

Gordis · 12-22-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

I'm honestly not sure how it all works from a legal standpoint. All I know is that the movie rights to LotR and The Hobbit were sold. Movie rights to other Tolkien Middle Earth works were not. How much invented material can be added to Hobbit movies in the name of artistic license without infringing on rights? And what if some of that material is pulled from UT or HoME? I don't know the answers to those questions but I would imagine the Tolkien Estate's lawyers do.

I think if they happen to get any facts from UT and HOME right, they have a legal problem. If they invent ALL of it, they are safe.

01-03-2008, 05:00 PM	#42
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	EDIT: Never mind, I seem to have a different sort of tool now that can also split threads. I have moved the posts concerning the LoTR movies to this thread:What all was wrong with PJ's LoTR which I think fits your discussion better. (Feel free to PM me if you disagree and we'll work something out.) __________________ We are not things.

02-14-2008, 09:18 PM	#45
Belwen_of_nargothrond Enting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nargothrond Posts: 71	Hello http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/...olkien_lawsuit I think you all should read this. __________________ Lady Belwen of Nargothrond

02-15-2008, 01:00 PM	#46
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Ouch! That's gonna cost New Line big time. I wonder whether this new money dispute will hinder the filming of the Hobbit. __________________ We are not things.

10-23-2008, 05:15 PM	#50
Telcontar Enting Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 53	I don't think the PJ movies were bad at all. A true to the book movie would've been like a 30 hr movie (including Hobbit). I don't know anyone that would sit around watching a movie that long, except us nerds of course __________________ "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." - Gandalf the Grey (FOTR) "Revenge is a dish best served cold." - Old Kingdom Proverb Kill Bill Volume 1)

10-27-2008, 02:41 PM	#51
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	True to the book doesn't necessarily equal longer. Not at all. In fact, most of the bad stuff in PJ's movies were the things added in from his own imagination, not the parts of Tolkien that he left out. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

02-08-2008, 01:30 PM	#44
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Guillermo del Toro (Pan' Labyrinth) may or may not direct this film: http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/02/...not-confirmed/ Loved Pan's Labyrinth. He would be excellent I think. Far better director than Jackson on previous form.

04-13-2008, 04:59 PM	#49
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	I don't know... I am not much of a movie goer. I only hope it won't be PJ... again. I also think a UK director would be better than an American for Tolkien's books: I like British adaptation of classics.

11-02-2008, 09:27 PM	#52
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Enough w/the PJ bashing! Back to the Hobbit movie. Is it progressing at this time or not?! __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

11-03-2008, 01:13 PM	#53
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Bashing? We've been polite in this thread. BTW, I've heard no indications that the movie is NOT progressing, so I assume it still is. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

11-03-2008, 02:33 PM	#54
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	I was joshing there, m'friend. __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

12-20-2008, 11:56 AM	#55
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Quick debate with the mods in the ether: does this thread go in the "movies" forum or The Hobbit forum? In any case, I heard from my brother (he is Captain Of Movie News that the producers and the Tolkiens were not agreeing on some things and that production for the movie has paused. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-20-2008, 11:41 PM	#56
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Just like the other three movies, I don't think the Tolkien Estate can do anything about whether these movies get made. What then can do is deny the rights to produce any Silm, HoME, or UT material. That will leave New Line with The Hobbit and Jackson/Walsh/Boyens' imagination as source material. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

12-20-2008, 11:53 PM	#57
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	But surely Jackson can't just go around making up new storylines for Middle-Earth... I've heard that he is developing an "in between" story to take place between The Hobbit and LOTR. Now, in more scholarly hands I would be ok with this. But I thought RotK was a failure in comparison to FotR, and I sort of gave up on him making The Hobbit faithfully. I expect it to be overblown and pompous. sigh And The Hobbit is my favorite JRRT book. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-21-2008, 10:58 PM	#58
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I'm honestly not sure how it all works from a legal standpoint. All I know is that the movie rights to LotR and The Hobbit were sold. Movie rights to other Tolkien Middle Earth works were not. How much invented material can be added to Hobbit movies in the name of artistic license without infringing on rights? And what if some of that material is pulled from UT or HoME? I don't know the answers to those questions but I would imagine the Tolkien Estate's lawyers do. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

12-21-2008, 11:12 PM	#59
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	you mean Jackson & Jackson and co? ..that'd be a smart move ..esp if there were still any lingering resentment with New line over Royalties ... Last edited by Butterbeer : 12-21-2008 at 11:13 PM.

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