Tolkien's Languages - Page 3

Wayfarer · 04-16-2003, 07:16 PM

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Wise!

Inyë, Istar Sailahacca.

Falagar · 04-16-2003, 07:18 PM

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A few notes:
I did not intend to call you a child, but rather to say you speak (quenya) like one.
I'm pretty sure the word quentë isn't correctly used as a verb form. Since Quenya=Speakers then Quen=Speak?
Inyë is generally used as an intensifier. ('even I', compare Elyë 'Even thou') The proper usage requires combining the pronoun affix to a verb.

Quet is the word for "speak". Quentë would thus mean "spoke", the -n in the usual pret. ending (-në) is being infixed before the 't'. This is called nasal infiction (I think) and occures in verbs ending in -t, -c and b (in 'b' we have a 'm' infixed instead of a 'n'). If my memory doesn't cheat me.

"You speak like a child" would be (I believe):
Quetel[yë] vë hin.

Ruinel · 04-16-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
Afterborn, I will not mock (be mocked by?) you. Desire peace between us.

pretty much sums it up. I was pretty ticked at what you wrote. I take back "afterborn." Sorry, twas rude.

So, then ... you do wish to speak with me, then. Good. I could use a teacher. Even an insufferable one (joking).

Istarnyë! Cenvandinyal? Centátanya? Istar!
Cotumolyë, Ruinil. Ilohta imbë me.
This one was hard... is it:
I {am?} wise!{ See small path? See high that?} Wise ones! Thou enemy, Ruinel. No war between us.
words in{} I'm not sure of. What is the word for "help"?

Wayfarer · 04-16-2003, 07:30 PM

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San, vá quentëlyen?

Laumë, Quetel!

Wayfarer · 04-16-2003, 07:37 PM

I {am?} wise!{ See small path? See high that?} Wise ones!
Thou enemy, Ruinel. No war between us.

I used lots of affixes.

Istarnyë (I am wise one)
Cen-vandi-nya? (See my Staff?)
Cen-táta-nya (See my Hat?)
Istar! (Wise one!)

I am a wizard! See the hat and staff? A Wizard

Was fairly obviously in response to the afterborn comment.

Should have been Il-Cotumolyë (not my enemy). But other than that, right on.

You actually got mad about that?

Boy, I take a break from the moot and everybody goes soft around here. ]: )

Falagar · 04-16-2003, 07:39 PM

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Laumë, Quetel!

[testing] Tievanto, quetel lambanen nola. [/testing]

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Should have been Il-Cotumolyë (not my enemy). But other than that, right on.

Btw, shouldn't it be Cotumolya (with an 'a' instead of an 'e') for possesive?

Ruinel · 04-16-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
Laumë, Quetel!

On the contrary, Speak you! (don't know why it starts with a cap.)

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Originally posted by Falagar
] Tievanto, quetel lambanen nola.

{path-bridge}, speak you language learned/wise.

I've got to run. I'll think of other things to say. But many words I want to say, I can't find. So, making the words is harder than translating them back to English. Namárië

Wayfarer · 04-16-2003, 08:14 PM

*/has a bad habit of Capitilizing Words in the Middle of Sentances for Emphasis.

Ruinel · 04-16-2003, 11:40 PM

Tiecarir, Istar Sailahacca. Man loar yassen haryalyë sina handë yo Quenya lambë?
Ar Falagar, le yando.

Wayfarer · 04-17-2003, 12:07 AM

Lala ávanyë. Inyë Quentanyë ve hina.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-17-2003, 12:55 AM

Boy, do I feel dumb...

Ruinel · 04-17-2003, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
Lala ávanyë. Inyë Quentanyë ve hina.

Lala, quetel mára ar ni mapa handë hoquetel.

Útacanyë ma Gwaimir Windgem, i Peristë, haryuva mi sámarya cenuva esserya mi sina men. [lol!]

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-17-2003, 08:18 PM

"Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess (it?) within your minds? you shall see your names/beginnings within this way/place/who"

"Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess it in your mind, you shall see your beginnings in this way?"

P. S. I think it says "sina" is supposed to be after its noun?

P. P. S. "lol" is Quenya???

Ruinel · 04-17-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
"Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess (it?) within your minds? you shall see your names/beginnings within this way/place/who"

"Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess it in your mind, you shall see your beginnings in this way?"

P. S. I think it says "sina" is supposed to be after its noun?

P. P. S. "lol" is Quenya???

I am unsure [Útancanyë] what it is [manië*] Gwaimir Windgem, half-wit [periswa], will possess [haryuva] in [mi] his mind [sámarya] seeing [cenuva] his name [esserya] within [mi] this [sina] place ("post") [men].

(*somehow nië was left off, I was probably in a hurry.) I could not find any other words for place that would fit.
lol: landë et-róma.
Wayfarer: Cartyalielmë anas. Ommë tultas minna I quetta lia.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-17-2003, 08:54 PM

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lol: landë et-róma.

LER!

Ruinel · 04-17-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
LER!

perhaps... rávëa landë... roaring sound laugh. Can't find a way to translate roflol, though. Sorry.
Translate my message to Wayfarer.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-17-2003, 09:44 PM

Ow...my head hurts...

Eight words.

First word.

Five syllables.

First syllable.

Make/build/do.

Othe syllables.

Wha????

Second word.

Two syllables.

First syllable.

Towards.

Second syllable.

It.

Third word.

Huh?????

Fourth word.

-wipes sweating brow-

-swallow-

Fourth word.

Summon it.

Fifth word.

Into.

Sixth word.

The. (really hard :rolleyes)

Seventh word.

Word.

Eighth word.

Twine.

Build (work?) towards it. ? summon it into the spiderweb of words?
-collapses in a pool of blood-

Ruinel · 04-17-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Build (work?) towards it. ? summon it into the spiderweb of words?
-collapses in a pool of blood-

Mwwaaaaahhhaahahahahaha!!!! My plan has worked!!!
Ok, now I feel bad... here it is...
We make sport [Car-tyalie-lmë] towards him [ana-s]. Together we [Ommë] bring/fetch him [tulta-s] inside [minna] the [i] thread of words (so to speak) [quetta lia].

I was trying to get you into the thread in a sneaky way. Plan a) get you interested by using your name in a sentence. Then you would would translate it (seeing your name) and be hooked. Plan b) beat you into submission and force you to speak quenya with us. heheheehe. Plan c) it is 'top secret', and if I told you, I would have to 'make you disappear.'

lol!

Ornelírë Mistë · 04-17-2003, 10:21 PM

Quetuvan Quenya yo le. Merin (to learn).

I do not know the verb "learn", or if there even is one. I do very much want to learn Quenya.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-17-2003, 10:41 PM

Ai! Úquentenyë lamba amanya, an nyë alasaila.

[óma Schwarzenegger]Pelnyë, lapsë![/óma Schwarzenneger]

04-16-2003, 07:37 PM	#45
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I {am?} wise!{ See small path? See high that?} Wise ones! Thou enemy, Ruinel. No war between us. I used lots of affixes. Istarnyë (I am wise one) Cen-vandi-nya? (See my Staff?) Cen-táta-nya (See my Hat?) Istar! (Wise one!) I am a wizard! See the hat and staff? A Wizard Was fairly obviously in response to the afterborn comment. Should have been Il-Cotumolyë (not my enemy). But other than that, right on. You actually got mad about that? Boy, I take a break from the moot and everybody goes soft around here. ]: ) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned Last edited by Wayfarer : 04-16-2003 at 07:40 PM.

04-16-2003, 08:14 PM	#48
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	*/has a bad habit of Capitilizing Words in the Middle of Sentances for Emphasis. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-17-2003, 12:07 AM	#50
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Lala ávanyë. Inyë Quentanyë ve hina. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-17-2003, 12:55 AM	#51
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Boy, do I feel dumb... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-17-2003, 08:18 PM	#53
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	"Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess (it?) within your minds? you shall see your names/beginnings within this way/place/who" "Do not fasten onto something, Gwaimir Windgem, the Halfwitted, you will possess it in your mind, you shall see your beginnings in this way?" P. S. I think it says "sina" is supposed to be after its noun? P. P. S. "lol" is Quenya??? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-16-2003, 11:40 PM	#49
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Tiecarir, Istar Sailahacca. Man loar yassen haryalyë sina handë yo Quenya lambë? Ar Falagar, le yando.

04-17-2003, 09:44 PM	#57
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Ow...my head hurts... Eight words. First word. Five syllables. First syllable. Make/build/do. Othe syllables. Wha???? Second word. Two syllables. First syllable. Towards. Second syllable. It. Third word. Huh????? Fourth word. -wipes sweating brow- -swallow- Fourth word. Summon it. Fifth word. Into. Sixth word. The. (really hard :rolleyes) Seventh word. Word. Eighth word. Twine. Build (work?) towards it. ? summon it into the spiderweb of words? -collapses in a pool of blood- __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-17-2003, 10:21 PM	#59
Ornelírë Mistë Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Quetuvan Quenya yo le. Merin (to learn). I do not know the verb "learn", or if there even is one. I do very much want to learn Quenya. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

04-17-2003, 10:41 PM	#60
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Ai! Úquentenyë lamba amanya, an nyë alasaila. [óma Schwarzenegger]Pelnyë, lapsë![/óma Schwarzenneger] __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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