09-18-2003, 06:54 PM | #21 | |
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You may not like JD's opinions, or agree with them, and even though you are a veteran of the armed services of the US, the flag and the symbolism is not your personal property. It is his right on or off of this messageboard to flag wave, or have the flag here as his avatar. Entmoot, is not a democracy.
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09-18-2003, 06:55 PM | #22 |
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Oh - this will probably REALLY upset you - because I ALSO defend a person's right to BURN the flag. I am AGAINST any Constitutional amendment to protect the flag because I feel it goes AGAINST free speech.
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09-18-2003, 07:12 PM | #23 |
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One can't seriously expect this book to be discussed dispassionately. Neither myself nor jerseydevil has violated the rules of this site. We have not sworn or threatened each other. We haven't even resorted to namecalling. We have merely been passionate. I did not ask an admin to change a user's icon. I do not ask interference.
Let me recap: JD proposed killing the author, albeit humorously. I said that is not in the spirit of demoracy so please don't use our flag when you post that sort of vitriol. He said I can't really think he really meant to kill the guy. I posted Jefferson talking about not killing people you disagree with. He said he is familiar with Jefferson. I repeated, then don't fly the flag while you spout un-democratic jokes. So let's get back to that topic and not get diverted into discussions of what we are allowed to say. p.s. two wrongs don't make a right, Ruinel. And I recall the admins telling you to tone it down.
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09-18-2003, 07:18 PM | #24 | |
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You seem to think you are superior because you are a veteran. Sorry - but in the United States of America - military personnel have no addtional rights or superiority over non-military personnel. If you want to throw your veteran status around like that then maybe a country run by a dictator would be more to your liking.
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09-18-2003, 07:26 PM | #25 | |
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09-18-2003, 08:15 PM | #26 |
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Please be assured I will not violate the rules. I am only replying in regard to the diversionary topic of thread locking because it was brought up.
jerseydevil, I don't think you are willing to read my words as intended, so I'll bow out. I don't have anything more to say anyway. I can only repeat myself in saying that killing people who you disagree with is wrong, it isn't funny to joke about it, and it isn't patriotic. I consider dissidents more patriotic than the draft-dodger on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. What else can I say? Not much, so have fun with your rebuttal. The opinions that follow this are merely opinions. Not a single person has posted a factual dispute with the book. Furthermore, I never said the flag only belongs to me. I am trying to take the flag back from the hate-mongers who are using it to create the impression that only they are allowed to have a flag. My service record is put here only because these hate-mongers question the patriotism of us dissidents.
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09-18-2003, 09:29 PM | #28 |
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Gee, all this over a guy who distorts the truth, lies about facts and makes up incidents. It hardly seems worthly of the efforts made by such members as have done so here.
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Dude, you need to chill. I was only trying to end this futile argument between you and JD, which will get AE's thread closed if it continues. You seem have a problem with what I said, since you now have your panties in a twist about it. Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about it one way or the other, since obviously you are closed minded to what other's have to say. Oh, yeah, about the flag thing... grow up. Quote:
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