Favourite human hero in The Sil - Page 2

afro-elf · 08-28-2003, 04:47 AM

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But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye.

He did eventually do so correct?

What was the result of him doing so?

I would say my favorite are the sons of Bor.

Being all swarthy of color and all.

Elvellon · 08-29-2003, 02:14 PM

Beren is my favourite human character, although Tuor’s fate was much better, compared with him, and Turin and Hurin.

Lord Manafirogh · 08-31-2003, 02:24 PM

Turin is my my favourite human. He just kept going. Bad fortune but a great worrier.

Attalus · 09-08-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Maedhros
Better? Pah. Weaker in might of soul? Yes. Killing his friend with a sword? Yes.
Túrin over Húrin? Pah, Pah.

I agree. I think Turin was a loon. Beren for me, then Hurin.

Wayfarer · 09-08-2003, 10:10 PM

I happen to like Beren.

Durin1 · 09-22-2003, 07:31 AM

In my opinion, Beren was a bit insufferable. I can't remember any time where he ACTUALLY did anything without the aid of Luthien, apart from maybe, his attack on Celegorm and Curufin.

His "quest" would have ended right at its very beginning if it hadn't been for his ridiculously incredible luck (or "fate" as Tolkien would have put it)!

Eärloth · 09-23-2003, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Sheeana
At least Turin wasn't stupid enough to go and get himself ensnared by Morgoth. You could almost say that the Doom of Turin was Hurin's fault.

Pah, pah, pah.

And yet he was stupid enough to reject the pardon of Thingol, to kill his best friend, to marry his sister despite whatever physical similarities there would have been between them, to murder a King for the mere report of her death when it angered him, to weaken before a subject of Morgoth and to kill himself...whereas Húrin sat before Morgoth himself for numerous years with the threat of Melkor's curse on him and his family without committing suicide...?

And I liked Haleth. Although she didn't really do a lot to sway the fate of the Jewels, she kicked arse.

Eärloth · 09-23-2003, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Durin1
In my opinion, Beren was a bit insufferable. I can't remember any time where he ACTUALLY did anything without the aid of Luthien, apart from maybe, his attack on Celegorm and Curufin.

But is there anything genuinely wrong with that? And he was *prepared* to go on without her; I remember him trying to leave her behind several times.

Durin1 · 09-23-2003, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by Eärloth
But is there anything genuinely wrong with that? And he was *prepared* to go on without her; I remember him trying to leave her behind several times.

Which would have made the Lay of Leithian about a page long, owing to the abrupt and untimely death of the "hero". Let's face it, he wouldn't have got very far.

Eärloth · 09-24-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by Durin1
Which would have made the Lay of Leithian about a page long...

Not if you used really big writing!!!

Turgon_Turambar · 09-30-2003, 08:16 AM

Even though he was a bit short sighted at times, killed Beleg, impregnated his own sister among other things i still reckon he was the best. Hurin wasnt bad either.

Eärloth · 09-30-2003, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Turgon_Turambar
Even though he was a bit short sighted at times, killed Beleg, impregnated his own sister among other things i still reckon he was the best. Hurin wasnt bad either.

Yes - maybe it would be best if people would measure the good of these heroes instead of summing up the faults of those they don't like.

Tuor of Gondolin · 10-01-2003, 09:47 PM

Hello!

Hmmm. Let me see. Favorite human character in the Silmarillion. That's a tough one. Umm, err, hmmmmm. I know!. Tuor!
(Well, after all, if he had ticked off Elemmakil and gotten to Gondolin the future of Middle Earth would have been rather darker (for starters, no Strider, Arwen, or Agent Smith).

P. S. I'm still working on a signature.
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P.P.P.S. I didn't know about P.S. addings until reading the Lord of the Rings (in the last milennium).

Artanis · 10-02-2003, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
Hmmm. Let me see. Favorite human character in the Silmarillion. That's a tough one. Umm, err, hmmmmm. I know!. Tuor!

Welcome to the moot!

Your choice seems pretty obvious considering your username.

Captain Stern · 12-05-2003, 09:27 AM

Got to be Hurin for me too. He seemed like a titanic figure compared to the rest of his race.

I haven't read enough about Tuor to give him any consideration.

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Originally posted by Maedhros:

"And indeed so great was the terror of the Dragon that Túrin dared not look straight upon his eye, but had kept the visor of his helmet down, shielding his face, and in his parley had looked no higher than Glaurung's feet. But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye."

So we have Túrin who was afraid and daunted by the eyes of Glaurung, a mere vassal of Morgoth, while Thalion the Steadfast look at Morgoth's eyes undaunted

To do something even though you're afraid of it. Isn't that the very definition of bravery?

Imric · 12-05-2003, 12:13 PM

I think Hurin would be my favorite ''human'' character from the Silmarillion. Whenever I reread his tragic tale I am reminded of both Heracles and Samson.

Ruinel · 12-06-2003, 01:13 AM

I liked Beren, but I have to say that Tuor also was a good Atan to like.

Wayfarer · 12-06-2003, 02:13 AM

Beren, Tuor, and Hurin, in that order, are my current favorites.

Maedhros · 12-06-2003, 03:45 PM

It's got to be Thalion the Steadfast, the Great Hero. He faced Morgoth face to face and never flinched. Could Beren had withstood Morgoth that way?
No.

Thalion the Steadfast it is.

Maedhros · 12-06-2003, 03:47 PM

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To do something even though you're afraid of it. Isn't that the very definition of bravery?

That was just plain stupid. His pride got the best of him.

08-29-2003, 02:14 PM	#22
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	Beren is my favourite human character, although Tuor’s fate was much better, compared with him, and Turin and Hurin. __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

09-08-2003, 10:10 PM	#25
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I happen to like Beren. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

09-22-2003, 07:31 AM	#26
Durin1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 221	In my opinion, Beren was a bit insufferable. I can't remember any time where he ACTUALLY did anything without the aid of Luthien, apart from maybe, his attack on Celegorm and Curufin. His "quest" would have ended right at its very beginning if it hadn't been for his ridiculously incredible luck (or "fate" as Tolkien would have put it)! __________________ Durin the Sleepless!

09-30-2003, 08:16 AM	#31
Turgon_Turambar Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The depths of Thangorodrim Posts: 145	TURIN RULES Even though he was a bit short sighted at times, killed Beleg, impregnated his own sister among other things i still reckon he was the best. Hurin wasnt bad either. __________________ GOD SENT ME TO PISS THE WORLD OFF!!!!!!!!!!

12-06-2003, 02:13 AM	#38
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Beren, Tuor, and Hurin, in that order, are my current favorites. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

08-31-2003, 02:24 PM	#23
Lord Manafirogh Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 187	Turin is my my favourite human. He just kept going. Bad fortune but a great worrier.

10-01-2003, 09:47 PM	#33
Tuor of Gondolin Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,215	Hello! Hmmm. Let me see. Favorite human character in the Silmarillion. That's a tough one. Umm, err, hmmmmm. I know!. Tuor! (Well, after all, if he had ticked off Elemmakil and gotten to Gondolin the future of Middle Earth would have been rather darker (for starters, no Strider, Arwen, or Agent Smith). P. S. I'm still working on a signature. P.P.S Also still looking for a message icon and figuring out how to customize paste one. P.P.P.S. I didn't know about P.S. addings until reading the Lord of the Rings (in the last milennium).

12-05-2003, 12:13 PM	#36
Imric Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 26	I think Hurin would be my favorite ''human'' character from the Silmarillion. Whenever I reread his tragic tale I am reminded of both Heracles and Samson.

12-06-2003, 01:13 AM	#37
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I liked Beren, but I have to say that Tuor also was a good Atan to like.

12-06-2003, 03:45 PM	#39
Maedhros The Tall Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Formenos Posts: 578	It's got to be Thalion the Steadfast, the Great Hero. He faced Morgoth face to face and never flinched. Could Beren had withstood Morgoth that way? No. Thalion the Steadfast it is. __________________ “What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.

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