Your thoughts on women shaving legs and arm pits - Page 2

Lanelf · 08-18-2003, 11:46 PM

Are men with hairy feet sexy? *mischievious look at hobbits*

But yes, I shave my legs and armpits. Sometimes. I can't be stuffed if it's not going to be seen.
Lanelf.

katya · 08-18-2003, 11:52 PM

Wow HOBBIT, I never thought of that. I guess it is harder for guys in that respect.
Anyway, I personally feel better shaving, though I realize that it's only culture. I don't really mind going along with it. Like for example, dressing well. If nobody cared, I would dress like I do at home: a total slob. But culturally, I don't think it would go over as well. I don't mind. I don't like having hairy armpits though so I would shave them anyway, I think. I just don't like razor burn and having to pay for new blades. Other than that I don't care.
I suppose it comes fust as much from girls as from guys. I first started shaving because in the locker room at gym class, I didn't like having hairy legs in front of the girls. There are no guys in the girls locker room then, so I could hardly blame it on men now could I?
Guys, personally, I don't care if you shave or not. But, if you're not going to shave your armpits, please avoid showing off your underarm hair. I have seen that more times than anyone should ever have to. No, I don't find it attractive. At all.

Sheeana · 08-19-2003, 01:10 AM

Tristan, I couldn't agree more. To blame any one group for mass-leg-shaving is just damned silly. That's like saying that the blame for anorexia is solely the models' fault. Things are usually more complicated than that. And yes, good point about the reciprocal pressure for men to look good.

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
so would this be considered an extreme circumstance?

Shuddup 'n shave, slave.

Bombadillo · 08-19-2003, 01:32 AM

By extreme, I meant:
bike racers, who are extremely into the sport to the utmost extreme.
swimmers, same story.
wrestlers, maybe. It makes them smoother and harder to grab.
People whose arms are constantly being set on fire for being so hairy.
homosexuals.

Hasty Ent · 08-19-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Bombadillo
By extreme, I meant:
bike racers, who are extremely into the sport to the utmost extreme.
swimmers, same story.
wrestlers, maybe. It makes them smoother and harder to grab.
People whose arms are constantly being set on fire for being so hairy.
homos.

what's that last one?

Grey_Wolf · 08-19-2003, 03:34 AM

I think it's a Western European Cultural phenomenon because in most of southern Europe women don't do it so much, if at all.

***Fat middle*** · 08-19-2003, 04:17 AM

Perhaps not in France and Italy, but in Spain it's also the general rule for women.

***Jonathan*** · 08-19-2003, 04:50 AM

I don't think they shave in Belgium either. Do they?

Artanis · 08-19-2003, 05:29 AM

Hmpf. I have been shaved and not shaved, and never noticed any difference in men's attention. Asians haven't got much body hair anyway. Not such a big deal, imo.

Armpit hairs are different. Shaved armpits doesn't smell that much.

***Fat middle*** · 08-19-2003, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by Artanis
Armpit hairs are different. Shaved armpits doesn't smell that much.

I guess that's why our Entmoot Armpit Guy has 'em shaved. I don't think he fits in any of the "extreme" situations previously mentioned

Artanis · 08-19-2003, 06:30 AM

Lalaith · 08-19-2003, 07:12 AM

I knew that my message would force some comments .....

I don't ever want to hear a bad comment about feminists again. I don't think that a normal, healthy feminist wants to rule the world, she just want's to free the world from the dominion of men.
I don't say that women should rule the world. Not at all. I just say that there should be equality between the genders.

And I don't believe, that man don't force women to shave themselves. They do. If a girl doesn't it is clear that she has to count with bad comments about her and everybody will stare at her.

It's very hard nowadays, not to shave for a women.

Lizra · 08-19-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
I think it's a Western European Cultural phenomenon because in most of southern Europe women don't do it so much, if at all.

The few middle eastern women I have known have been practically obsessed with hair removal. I remember one Iranian girl who plucked her legs!

Of course, middle eastern women arn't the most liberated lot!

Unless you are dating "Hairy Hippie", once you start seriously trying to catch a fellow's eye, you usually start shaving....why? Because the other girls do! You don't want to look less sexy than them! It is culture! (and competition

) Growing my own knee socks is gross!

afro-elf · 08-19-2003, 07:41 AM

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And I don't believe, that man don't force women to shave themselves. They do. If a girl doesn't it is clear that she has to count with bad comments about her and everybody will stare at her.

Women will make those comments to about your unshaveness.

No male is holding a gun to your head to make you shave.

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To blame men on shaving your arm pits and legs is like men blaming women on having to shave their beards.

It is a cultural product that is not SOLELY enforced by either gender.

check out the feminism thread
here:

http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.ph...light=feminism

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I don't ever want to hear a bad comment about feminists again

The two American men are contemplating suicide because the American woman will not shut up and complains relentlessly about her body, the true nature of feminism, what the sun is doing to her skin, how she can do anything they can do, the necessity of fulfillment, the equal division of household chores, how sand and palm trees make her look fat, how her last boyfriend respected her opinions and treated her a lot better than they do, and how her relationship with her mother is the cause of all her problems, and why didn't they bring a cell phone with them so they could call 911 and get them all rescued from this godforsaken deserted island in the middle of nowhere... so she can get her nails done and go shopping.

***Fat middle*** · 08-19-2003, 08:16 AM

Artanis · 08-19-2003, 08:37 AM

*sigh*
I wish the day will come when women have self-confidence enough to do what they like, and not what they think other people expect of them.

GrayMouser · 08-19-2003, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Hasty Ent
what's that last one?

American Heritage Dictionary:

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homo: Inflected forms: pl. ho·mos
Offensive slang Used as a disparaging term for a gay man or lesbian.

Equivalent of queer,faggot, fairy

On the same level of discourse as calling someone a kike, spic, chink, spook, raghead etc.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-19-2003, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by GrayMouser
American Heritage Dictionary:

Equivalent of queer,faggot, fairy

On the same level of discourse as calling someone a kike, spic, chink, spook, raghead etc.

Okay, is there some significance for bringing these terms into this thread?

Insidious Rex · 08-19-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Sheeana
Shuddup 'n shave, slave.

hey can I at least use nare or something? at least you have nothing down there to cut off.

GrayMouser · 08-19-2003, 02:14 PM

I don't know, ask Bombadillo about the significance- he's the one that introduced the term originally.

I was just supplying the definition for someone who asked, and putting it in context.

08-18-2003, 11:46 PM	#21
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	Are men with hairy feet sexy? mischievious look at hobbits But yes, I shave my legs and armpits. Sometimes. I can't be stuffed if it's not going to be seen. Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

08-19-2003, 01:32 AM	#24
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	By extreme, I meant: bike racers, who are extremely into the sport to the utmost extreme. swimmers, same story. wrestlers, maybe. It makes them smoother and harder to grab. People whose arms are constantly being set on fire for being so hairy. homosexuals. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity? Last edited by Bombadillo : 08-19-2003 at 12:36 PM.

08-19-2003, 04:17 AM	#27
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	Perhaps not in France and Italy, but in Spain it's also the general rule for women. __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

08-19-2003, 04:50 AM	#28
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	I don't think they shave in Belgium either. Do they? __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

08-19-2003, 05:29 AM	#29
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Hmpf. I have been shaved and not shaved, and never noticed any difference in men's attention. Asians haven't got much body hair anyway. Not such a big deal, imo. Armpit hairs are different. Shaved armpits doesn't smell that much. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

08-18-2003, 11:52 PM	#22
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	Wow HOBBIT, I never thought of that. I guess it is harder for guys in that respect. Anyway, I personally feel better shaving, though I realize that it's only culture. I don't really mind going along with it. Like for example, dressing well. If nobody cared, I would dress like I do at home: a total slob. But culturally, I don't think it would go over as well. I don't mind. I don't like having hairy armpits though so I would shave them anyway, I think. I just don't like razor burn and having to pay for new blades. Other than that I don't care. I suppose it comes fust as much from girls as from guys. I first started shaving because in the locker room at gym class, I didn't like having hairy legs in front of the girls. There are no guys in the girls locker room then, so I could hardly blame it on men now could I? Guys, personally, I don't care if you shave or not. But, if you're not going to shave your armpits, please avoid showing off your underarm hair. I have seen that more times than anyone should ever have to. No, I don't find it attractive. At all.

08-19-2003, 03:34 AM	#26
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	I think it's a Western European Cultural phenomenon because in most of southern Europe women don't do it so much, if at all.

08-19-2003, 06:30 AM	#31
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	__________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

08-19-2003, 07:12 AM	#32
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I knew that my message would force some comments ..... I don't ever want to hear a bad comment about feminists again. I don't think that a normal, healthy feminist wants to rule the world, she just want's to free the world from the dominion of men. I don't say that women should rule the world. Not at all. I just say that there should be equality between the genders. And I don't believe, that man don't force women to shave themselves. They do. If a girl doesn't it is clear that she has to count with bad comments about her and everybody will stare at her. It's very hard nowadays, not to shave for a women. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

08-19-2003, 08:16 AM	#35
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	LOL __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

08-19-2003, 08:37 AM	#36
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	sigh I wish the day will come when women have self-confidence enough to do what they like, and not what they think other people expect of them. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

08-19-2003, 02:14 PM	#40
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	I don't know, ask Bombadillo about the significance- he's the one that introduced the term originally. I was just supplying the definition for someone who asked, and putting it in context. __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill