What Fingolfin looked like during his rage... - Page 2

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-19-2003, 03:56 PM

Yes, in the sense that all modern fantasy is. But do you think that the green Orcs are the same? The noble, shamanistic race, who was tricked and deceived into acting evil?

The elves of modern fantasy are, in many ways, much more like humans than the Eldar.

Ruinel · 03-19-2003, 08:29 PM

Finarfin and his decendents had the golden hair... says so in The Sil, I believe.

My brother is a D&D & RPG kinda guy (Akirapryde) and he has no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to Tolkien's Elves, Orcs, Men, Istari, etc. He is totally lost. It is fun b/c I feed him Quenya or Sindarin and he had no idea what it is (I've named him "Tithen Cabor"). I find it hard to believe that there are any similarities. But then again, I have no knowlege of D&D & RPG at all. Therefore, I am no expert on the subject in any way.

afro-elf · 03-20-2003, 02:26 AM

Of the sons of Indis only Finarfin and his descendants had golden hair.

Yes, one cool picture.

BeardofPants · 03-20-2003, 04:23 AM

Well, I'd just like to comment that the eye colour is all wrong as well.

DÃºnedain · 03-20-2003, 04:34 AM

Well like I said, that is how I view Fingolfin

afro-elf · 03-20-2003, 08:11 AM

Maybe your picture could be Glorfindel or Finrod instead?

DÃºnedain · 03-20-2003, 11:20 AM

Could be, but for some reason when I think of Fingolfin's rage I think of that pic, mainly the eyes and the angered look on his face

Ruinel · 03-20-2003, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afro-elf
Maybe your picture could be Glorfindel or Finrod instead?

Ack!!!

No!! He doesn't look anything like Finrod! Besides, we can't see his buns.

Ack!!! Did I post that... *hides face in shame* ooohhhhh, I'm gonna pay for that one. I'm gonna pay big time.

Ninquelote · 03-26-2003, 03:56 PM

I don't think anyone can really use any sort of picture for any character, because different characters look different in different people's minds.

People picture different qualities and associate them with different physical features... Quite odd, in my opinion...

Then again, I never pictured any sort of elf as a pixillized character.

Arien the Maia · 03-26-2003, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninquelote
I don't think anyone can really use any sort of picture for any character, because different characters look different in different people's minds.

People picture different qualities and associate them with different physical features... Quite odd, in my opinion...

Then again, I never pictured any sort of elf as a pixillized character.

I totally agree...I am illustrating some characters from the Sil, and I wouldn't expect everyone to think that Feanor, (my avatar) for instance, looks like how I picture him. What would have been really cool was if Tolkien drew pictures of his characters or places or things. That way everyone would know that this is what the charac ter, place, or thing, really looked like.

Halbarad of the North · 03-26-2003, 10:57 PM

Fingolfin can't be dark haired, the only noldor with dark hair were the house of Finarfin.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-26-2003, 11:02 PM

Welcome to the Entmoot, Halbarad!

It's always great to see someone with a name from the books!

I think you're a bit mixed up. I believe they had dark hair, except for the "golden house of Finarfin".

afro-elf · 03-27-2003, 02:51 AM

Yeah, welcome Halbarad, but you have it reversed.

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-27-2003, 05:27 AM

The only ROYAL Eldarin house (i.e of Finwean descent) to have fully golden hair in their house was the Finarfians. An example of non-Finarfians who had golden hair were, Glorfindel and Idril had golden hair as well.

I always thought Findis had Golden hair, for some reason.

DÃºnedain · 03-27-2003, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
What would have been really cool was if Tolkien drew pictures of his characters or places or things. That way everyone would know that this is what the charac ter, place, or thing, really looked like.

I'm actually glad he didn't draw them, because now we can imagine them the way we want to with certain attributes from their descriptions and whatnot. It gives more depth to the stories in my opinion

***RÃan*** · 03-27-2003, 08:40 PM

From HoME 12, The Peoples of Middle Earth:

Quote:

from The Shibboleth of FÃ«anor
Fingolfin was his father's son, tall, dark, and proud, as were most of the Ã‘oldor...

*sigh* - I like Fingolfin, and I like dark hair!

From the Sil:

Quote:

from Of The Ruin of Beleriand
...and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that OromÃ« himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar......Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old. The Orcs made no boast of that duel at the gate; neither do the Elves sing of it, for their sorrow is too deep.

BeardofPants · 03-28-2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RÃ*an
From HoME 12, The Peoples of Middle Earth:

I already posted that!

***RÃan*** · 03-28-2003, 02:47 AM

whoops!

DÃºnedain · 03-29-2003, 04:42 AM

Well either way that is how I picture Fingolfin anyway

Especially the eyes!

Falagar · 03-30-2003, 12:06 PM

Happy now? I colored his hair!

http://link.freepichosting.com/image.cgi/29888/0.jpg

03-19-2003, 03:56 PM	#1
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yes, in the sense that all modern fantasy is. But do you think that the green Orcs are the same? The noble, shamanistic race, who was tricked and deceived into acting evil? The elves of modern fantasy are, in many ways, much more like humans than the Eldar. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-20-2003, 02:26 AM	#3
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Of the sons of Indis only Finarfin and his descendants had golden hair. Yes, one cool picture. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-20-2003, 04:23 AM	#4
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Well, I'd just like to comment that the eye colour is all wrong as well. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-20-2003, 04:34 AM	#5
DÃºnedain High King of NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Well like I said, that is how I view Fingolfin __________________ 'Et EÃ¤rello Endorenna utÃºlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

03-20-2003, 08:11 AM	#6
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Maybe your picture could be Glorfindel or Finrod instead? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-19-2003, 08:29 PM	#2
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Finarfin and his decendents had the golden hair... says so in The Sil, I believe. My brother is a D&D & RPG kinda guy (Akirapryde) and he has no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to Tolkien's Elves, Orcs, Men, Istari, etc. He is totally lost. It is fun b/c I feed him Quenya or Sindarin and he had no idea what it is (I've named him "Tithen Cabor"). I find it hard to believe that there are any similarities. But then again, I have no knowlege of D&D & RPG at all. Therefore, I am no expert on the subject in any way.

03-20-2003, 11:20 AM	#7
DÃºnedain High King of NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Could be, but for some reason when I think of Fingolfin's rage I think of that pic, mainly the eyes and the angered look on his face __________________ 'Et EÃ¤rello Endorenna utÃºlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

03-26-2003, 03:56 PM	#9
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	I don't think anyone can really use any sort of picture for any character, because different characters look different in different people's minds. People picture different qualities and associate them with different physical features... Quite odd, in my opinion... Then again, I never pictured any sort of elf as a pixillized character. __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

03-26-2003, 10:57 PM	#11
Halbarad of the North Sapling Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 8	Fingolfin can't be dark haired, the only noldor with dark hair were the house of Finarfin.

03-26-2003, 11:02 PM	#12
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Welcome to the Entmoot, Halbarad! It's always great to see someone with a name from the books! I think you're a bit mixed up. I believe they had dark hair, except for the "golden house of Finarfin". __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-27-2003, 02:51 AM	#13
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Yeah, welcome Halbarad, but you have it reversed. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-27-2003, 05:27 AM	#14
Inderjit Sanghera Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England. Posts: 260	The only ROYAL Eldarin house (i.e of Finwean descent) to have fully golden hair in their house was the Finarfians. An example of non-Finarfians who had golden hair were, Glorfindel and Idril had golden hair as well. I always thought Findis had Golden hair, for some reason. Last edited by Inderjit Sanghera : 03-27-2003 at 05:29 AM.

03-28-2003, 02:47 AM	#18
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03-29-2003, 04:42 AM	#19
DÃºnedain High King of NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NÃºmenÃ³rÃ« <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Well either way that is how I picture Fingolfin anyway Especially the eyes! __________________ 'Et EÃ¤rello Endorenna utÃºlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

03-30-2003, 12:06 PM	#20
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Happy now? I colored his hair! http://link.freepichosting.com/image.cgi/29888/0.jpg __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

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