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Old 11-26-1999, 02:43 AM   #21
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Well, there you have it folks. Thanks Hernalt
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Old 11-26-1999, 06:02 PM   #22
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Hey, there he is!

Our fave Tolkien scholar made it back! hehe I knew he`d have a few words on the subject. Good to see you again.
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Old 03-16-2001, 02:49 PM   #23
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Who are Alatar and Pallando ?

Who are they and what book ??
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Old 03-20-2001, 02:30 AM   #24
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Actually Tolkien revised the idea. In the latest writing they were not Alatar and Pallando but Morinehtar and Romenstamo, Darkness-slayer and East-helper. In this tale they came to Middle-earth at the same time as Glorfindel back from the dead, in the Second Age of the Sun. They went into the far East. Their mission was to aid the few Easterling tribes who had resisted Sauron and stir up rebellion in the rest. In this revised version they were largely successful, except in discovering the old fastness of Barad-dur. The information is found in the Peoples of Middle-earth, Late Writings.
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Old 03-21-2001, 12:20 AM   #25
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Alatar and Pallando ('Great [large of size] Day' and 'Wide [open] Woven Night') are the Ithryn Luin, the Blue Wizards in Tolkien's Essay, Of The Istari, found in Unfinished Tales, Part Four. Near the end of that essay where Wizards other than Gandalf were concerned, Christopher Tolkien said there was more written, but he couldn't make it out. Some time later before 1996 (or during that year) he made out the words and published them in The People's of Middle-earth. At this point they became Morinehtar and Romenstamo, and their success and history is changed. It is not said whether in this version (as the former one) that they were of the people of Orome.
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