Chapter Three – The Letters from No One - Page 2

jammi567 · 07-18-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sun-star

What kind of magic is operating here? Are all Hogwarts letters designed to behave like this, or is someone controlling these ones?

I don't know what kind of magic it is, but i think this is a very, very rare case, because 'normal' parents let their children read their own letters. Of course, it could also be Dumbledore having his little bit of fun (like what happens at the beginning of book six.

Lizra · 07-18-2006, 07:18 AM

I just don't take this chapter too seriously....it seems rather a lighthearted example of how icky (and in denial about wizardry) the Dursleys are......and how important Harry is.

Has anybody heard from Radagast the Brown of late? I hope his is ok.....

durinsbane2244 · 07-18-2006, 02:21 PM

yes, rad is fine, i spoke with him a couple days ago...anyway, yeah, probably not standard procedure...

Butterbeer · 07-18-2006, 03:32 PM

send him best wishes Bal!

Radagast The Brown · 07-18-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizra

Has anybody heard from Radagast the Brown of late? I hope his is ok.....

Ohh.. sorry for making you worry Liz!

I'm quite alright, just not in the mood for Harry Potter discussions.

Lizra · 07-18-2006, 05:43 PM

Hey Dude! Glad you are ok.....I came because of your PM....but I'm afraid I wouldn't be in the mood for HP chit chat if I were in your place either.

I'm thinking of you though, and hope for better days......

Serenoli · 07-19-2006, 02:00 AM

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What kind of magic is operating here? Are all Hogwarts letters designed to behave like this, or is someone controlling these ones?

No, they don't all behave like this... Hagrid says he was specially assigned to the task, and was allowed to use magic to make sure the letters reached Harry, so obviously Hagrid was controlling the letters. I also read in a JK Rowling interview somewhere, that with other Muggle-borns, a representative of Hogwarts is usually sent to explain it all, (e.g. Dumbledore going to get young Tom Riddle from the orphanage) or they might think it was all a practical joke... with Harry, they probably guessed a more dynamic approach was necessary...

With those born into magic families, there was no problems, of course.

jammi567 · 07-19-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sun-star

Is there any reason, apart from narrative drama, that Hagrid arrives exactly at midnight? For example, does Harry have to remain with the Dursleys until the very minute he turns eleven, before he can learn he is a wizard?

I think that you've worded this question wrong because Harry would've lerned that he was a wizard much earlier if he had managed to read one of the letters. But, yeh, it is strange that he does come right on midnight.

tolkienfan · 07-20-2006, 05:49 PM

Well, he thought that Harry already knew that he was a wizard and about Hogwarts. He probably was just dropping in to give Harry a nice birthday surprise, and to see why he hadn't gotten his letter.

durinsbane2244 · 07-20-2006, 05:55 PM

true. also, it was obvious that harry would need an escort around diagon alley. but here's a point! if it was expected that harry already knew, which is true because hagrid is surprised that he hadn't gotten the letter, than why did hagrid have yet another letter on his person, which he gave to harry?

tolkienfan · 07-20-2006, 05:57 PM

No, he knew Harry hadn't gotten his letter, but he thought Harry knew all about Hogwarts.

durinsbane2244 · 07-20-2006, 06:02 PM

oooh...good point...heh...chalk one up for tolkienfan than...

jammi567 · 07-20-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tolkienfan

No, he knew Harry hadn't gotten his letter, but he thought Harry knew all about Hogwarts.

Ahhhh, but how would Hagrid know that Harry know about Hogwarts from people who Hagrid knows are muggles, and who dd probally told him, or lily whilst she was still at school, apsalutly hated magic and anything to do with it. i hope it makes sense.

Lizra · 07-20-2006, 09:15 PM

Was this the chapter where Hagrid shows off his umbrella/wand?

durinsbane2244 · 07-20-2006, 09:25 PM

hm...i believe so...probably...

tolkienfan · 07-20-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jammi567

Ahhhh, but how would Hagrid know that Harry know about Hogwarts from people who Hagrid knows are muggles, and who dd probally told him, or lily whilst she was still at school, apsalutly hated magic and anything to do with it. i hope it makes sense.

I guess he thought it was obvious that they would have told him. It's kind of important.

durinsbane2244 · 07-21-2006, 12:30 AM

true indeed, tolkienfan, true indeed...

jammi567 · 07-21-2006, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizra

Was this the chapter where Hagrid shows off his umbrella/wand?

no, that's at the end of the next chapter.

durinsbane2244 · 07-21-2006, 01:48 PM

ah, good ol' jammi and your potter knowledge...and getting a book and checking...ah, laziness!

jammi567 · 07-21-2006, 02:11 PM

if you must know, that was having a very good memory, and not lazyness, unlike a certain person i know...

07-18-2006, 07:18 AM	#22
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I just don't take this chapter too seriously....it seems rather a lighthearted example of how icky (and in denial about wizardry) the Dursleys are......and how important Harry is. Has anybody heard from Radagast the Brown of late? I hope his is ok..... __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

07-18-2006, 02:21 PM	#23
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07-18-2006, 05:43 PM	#26
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Hey Dude! Glad you are ok.....I came because of your PM....but I'm afraid I wouldn't be in the mood for HP chit chat if I were in your place either. I'm thinking of you though, and hope for better days...... __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

07-20-2006, 05:49 PM	#29
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	Well, he thought that Harry already knew that he was a wizard and about Hogwarts. He probably was just dropping in to give Harry a nice birthday surprise, and to see why he hadn't gotten his letter. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

07-20-2006, 05:55 PM	#30
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	true. also, it was obvious that harry would need an escort around diagon alley. but here's a point! if it was expected that harry already knew, which is true because hagrid is surprised that he hadn't gotten the letter, than why did hagrid have yet another letter on his person, which he gave to harry? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-18-2006, 03:32 PM	#24
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	send him best wishes Bal!

07-20-2006, 05:57 PM	#31
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07-20-2006, 06:02 PM	#32
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	oooh...good point...heh...chalk one up for tolkienfan than... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-20-2006, 09:15 PM	#34
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Was this the chapter where Hagrid shows off his umbrella/wand? __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

07-20-2006, 09:25 PM	#35
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	hm...i believe so...probably... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-21-2006, 12:30 AM	#37
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	true indeed, tolkienfan, true indeed... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-21-2006, 01:48 PM	#39
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	ah, good ol' jammi and your potter knowledge...and getting a book and checking...ah, laziness! __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

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