What LOtR characters you find irritating? - Page 2

rohirrim TR · 08-08-2005, 11:18 PM

"how was she supost to get there?"

by horse

duh

Lotesse · 08-08-2005, 11:28 PM

I am of the opinion that if Arwen really wanted to bring Aragorn a gift, she could have and would have done so. Nothing would have been able to prevent her from locating him, and taking the journey out there to grab a visit with her so-called true love. Especially in light of the fact of who she is, and what kind of experience in reconnaisance and self-defense skills that she had at her disposal. Her brothers, for instance. They would have helped their sister make the trip, if she absolutely would not have taken "no" for an answer from them. Bah. Arwen doesn't do it for me, too soft and not fierce enough with her alleged "love". She doesn't have me fooled.

Jon S. · 08-11-2005, 08:54 PM

I don't find any of the LOTR characters irritating.

I don't even find this thread irritating.

CrazySquirrel · 08-13-2005, 05:27 AM

Is there ANYTHING at all that you find irritating, Jon S?

Elf Music · 08-14-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

tom bombadillo is the most annoying dude in the books I don't know why tolkien even bothered with him

I totally agree. Tom Bombadil doesn't serve any real purpose in the books, except to annoy and irritate readers with his witless prattle. Somehow he doesn't seem to belong to the story at all and could easily have been dispensed with altogether, as the films proved. It was a wise decision to leave him out of them. Bombadil is supposed to be some sort of mysterious, primeval being with great powers but you could have fooled me!

mithrand1r · 08-14-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elf Music

I totally agree. Tom Bombadil doesn't serve any real purpose in the books, except to annoy and irritate readers with his witless prattle. Somehow he doesn't seem to belong to the story at all and could easily have been dispensed with altogether, as the films proved. It was a wise decision to leave him out of them. Bombadil is supposed to be some sort of mysterious, primeval being with great powers but you could have fooled me!

I would disagree with you about Tom not serving any real purpose.

Tom's Chapters gave the hobbits a chance to expand their horizons/knowledge of the world around them. The reader sees that the hobbits continue to move from the relative safety of their home into an outside world that is filled with more danger. The reader also sees that there are some people that are willing to be friendly to them (and some that are not so friendly) and even offer help on their journey.

I do agree that the chapters involving Tom would be a good place to cut material, if one was planning on making a movie, without harming the general story of LOTR.

Lotesse · 08-14-2005, 09:18 PM

Tom Bombadil's constant amped-up prancing around and singing about everything in this super-animated creepy-guy-on-mushrooms routine DOES begin to grate on the nerves after a point. Like Rian says, I too am surprised Goldberry doesn't "haul back and smack him sometimes" !

However, I don't hate him. I would have liked to have seen the whole barrow-downs and Bombadil stuff in PJ's movie, oh well. I doubt any actor would have been able to get away with such a portrayal, anyway, except possibly Robin Williams. Can you imagine? It'd be the potential kiss of death to an average actor's career.

rohirrim TR · 08-18-2005, 03:36 PM

I thought that if bombadil was in the film hed have to be like will smith rapping his way through lord of the rings it'd be funny at least

Lotesse · 08-18-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

I thought that if bombadil was in the film hed have to be like will smith rapping his way through lord of the rings it'd be funny at least

LOL!! good one!

08-18-2005, 04:45 PM

I dunno, I thought the fact that the Ring had no power over Bombadil was cool. Kinda shows why the Hobbits are so resistant to its affect. Bombadil had absolutely no desire for power. Therefore the ring had no basis on which to tempt him.
However, Gandalf's prediction that the Old Forest would probably be the last place to fall should the ring not be destroyed really shows just how powerful Bombadil is. _Who_ he is ... is a question of some import though

(Personally, he reminds me of my father but that's neither here nor there

)

Arien the Maia · 09-09-2005, 05:18 PM

Arwen bugs me the most.....

Lotesse · 09-09-2005, 05:28 PM

Yeah, Arwen's pretty friggin' irritating, to say the least!

rohirrim TR · 09-09-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotesse

Yeah, Arwen's pretty friggin' irritating, to say the least!

I found her even more annoying in the films but thats probably another thread

Arien the Maia · 09-10-2005, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

I found her even more annoying in the films but thats probably another thread

I agree! probably b/c she had more of a role there

Elanor · 09-18-2005, 12:47 AM

Denethor's irritating. So is Theoden sometimes. Outside of LotR, I find both Feanor and Turin extremely annoying. I guess I just don't like tragic heroes.

08-08-2005, 11:28 PM	#22
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	I am of the opinion that if Arwen really wanted to bring Aragorn a gift, she could have and would have done so. Nothing would have been able to prevent her from locating him, and taking the journey out there to grab a visit with her so-called true love. Especially in light of the fact of who she is, and what kind of experience in reconnaisance and self-defense skills that she had at her disposal. Her brothers, for instance. They would have helped their sister make the trip, if she absolutely would not have taken "no" for an answer from them. Bah. Arwen doesn't do it for me, too soft and not fierce enough with her alleged "love". She doesn't have me fooled. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-14-2005, 09:18 PM	#27
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Tom Bombadil's constant amped-up prancing around and singing about everything in this super-animated creepy-guy-on-mushrooms routine DOES begin to grate on the nerves after a point. Like Rian says, I too am surprised Goldberry doesn't "haul back and smack him sometimes" ! However, I don't hate him. I would have liked to have seen the whole barrow-downs and Bombadil stuff in PJ's movie, oh well. I doubt any actor would have been able to get away with such a portrayal, anyway, except possibly Robin Williams. Can you imagine? It'd be the potential kiss of death to an average actor's career. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 08-14-2005 at 09:22 PM.

09-09-2005, 05:28 PM	#32
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Yeah, Arwen's pretty friggin' irritating, to say the least! __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-18-2005, 12:47 AM	#35
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	Denethor's irritating. So is Theoden sometimes. Outside of LotR, I find both Feanor and Turin extremely annoying. I guess I just don't like tragic heroes. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

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08-18-2005, 04:45 PM	#30
Acran Mern Guest Posts: n/a	I dunno, I thought the fact that the Ring had no power over Bombadil was cool. Kinda shows why the Hobbits are so resistant to its affect. Bombadil had absolutely no desire for power. Therefore the ring had no basis on which to tempt him. However, Gandalf's prediction that the Old Forest would probably be the last place to fall should the ring not be destroyed really shows just how powerful Bombadil is. _Who_ he is ... is a question of some import though (Personally, he reminds me of my father but that's neither here nor there )

09-09-2005, 05:18 PM	#31
Arien the Maia Fëanáro's Fire Mistress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 1,423	Arwen bugs me the most.....