Introduction: Reading the Sil for the First Time - Page 2

**Nurvingiel** · 11-29-2004, 12:53 PM

So... ya done yet Bombadillo?

*gets out knife*

Relax! It's to whittle this stick to a pointy point!

Elemmírë · 11-29-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

So... ya done yet Bombadillo?

*gets out knife*

Relax! It's to whittle this stick to a pointy point!

Or so you claim.

Did anyone have any trouble keeping all the names straight (the princes especially...), or is everyone here as crazy as me and can recite the entire House of Finwe on command...

If nothing else, it's that which scares people...

If only I put half as much effort on my school work.

How's it coming, Bombadillo? Anyone got a spare stick... I think SGH would notice hers is missing...

Telcontar_Dunedain · 11-29-2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Did anyone have any trouble keeping all the names straight (the princes especially...), or is everyone here as crazy as me and can recite the entire House of Finwe on command...

I can do that to apart from Finrod's, Orodreth's and Galadriel's brothers. *Runs off to learn!*

Elemmírë · 11-29-2004, 03:53 PM

TD, is that something you should have confessed to me?

Angrod and Aegnor, if you want the Sindarin versions.

Angrod's the older.

So... you can do all of the Feanorion crew?

*mildly impressed*

BeardofPants · 11-29-2004, 04:33 PM

Should we throw the proverbial spanner into the works?

You know, the problematic parentage of Gil-Galad?

Telcontar_Dunedain · 11-29-2004, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

TD, is that something you should have confessed to me?

Hey. I remembered Finrod!

Artanis · 11-29-2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Angrod and Aegnor, if you want the Sindarin versions.

Angaráto and Aikanáro, if you want the Quenya versions.

Elemmírë · 11-29-2004, 07:16 PM

I knew that.

Just didn't want to confuse (yeah right), or butcher the names by my inability to use accents...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

Should we throw the proverbial spanner into the works? You know, the problematic parentage of Gil-Galad?

Why stop there? Bring Orodreth into it also and really confuse...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar Dunedain

Hey. I remembered Finrod!

SGH's Stick of Wrath would be the least of your worries if you had not.

Bombadillo · 11-29-2004, 07:45 PM

Don't stab me yet guys,

although I was procrastinating. I read the title of Ainulindalë and then spent about an hour and a half reading the Note on Pronunciation, gathering LotR and a dictionary to keep nearby, looking through LotR Appendix E for a "more extensive" guide to Quenya, and reading the critics' reviews and the foreword. I read Ainulindalë today and took penciled notes on things. I'll make the actual entry after Valaquenta (the greuling part).

Pacing myself is already starting to be a battle; I have so much to think about I want to keep reading through it, but then I might lose those thoughts and I want to record them immediately.

And thanks for your offers to help! I'll be glad to accept any I can get.

The best way to contact me about an entry would be with a PM once the entry is up. I won't be reading your posts for advice or anything until much later; there's too high a risk of spoilers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

So... ya done yet Bombadillo?

*gets out knife*

Relax! It's to whittle this stick to a pointy point!

Lol! It won't be so slow once I get past the beginning. I've already read this stuff anyway...

1st entry Wednesday or I'm good for nothing.

Elemmírë · 11-29-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bombadillo

Don't stab me yet guys,

although I was procrastinating. I read the title of Ainulindalë and then spent about an hour and a half reading the Note on Pronunciation, gathering LotR and a dictionary to keep nearby, looking through LotR Appendix E for a "more extensive" guide to Quenya, and reading the critics' reviews and the foreword. I read Ainulindalë today and took penciled notes on things. I'll make the actual entry after Valaquenta (the greuling part).

Pacing myself is already starting to be a battle; I have so much to think about I want to keep reading through it, but then I might lose those thoughts and I want to record them immediately.

And thanks for your offers to help! I'll be glad to accept any I can get.

The best way to contact me about an entry would be with a PM once the entry is up. I won't be reading your posts for advice or anything until much later; there's too high a risk of spoilers.

*impressed*

Penciled notes. Very nice... I think I just read the thing enough times to memorise most of it, but that's just my style...

Recording thoughts is a good idea... I should try that every so often...

And you're right, spoilers would be a certainty.

~Nolwë~ · 12-03-2004, 01:47 PM

Okey Dokey then,

started to read The Silmarillion and looking for some advice. I'm thinking I would benefit from some good maps.

Can anyone recommend a good book of Tolkien Maps? I'd like to ask someone to get it for me as a xmas pressie so I wait with baited breath for a response. Time is of the essence peeps.

Thanking ye kindly.......

BeardofPants · 12-03-2004, 01:50 PM

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/bibli...1-0618126996-0

It's a pretty good book - not completely without flaws - but overall, well worth the dosh forked out.

~Nolwë~ · 12-03-2004, 01:57 PM

My God, that was quick.....

took a look, will ask for book

cheerie ma dearie xx

Elemmírë · 12-03-2004, 05:12 PM

As soon as I finish my book for class, and maybe studying for finals

, I'll be picking up the Silm again for some serious rereading.

Though I can't exactly say why...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/bibli...1-0618126996-0

It's a pretty good book - not completely without flaws - but overall, well worth the dosh forked out.

Looks nice. Of course... by now I could probably draw a map of ME and Beleriand...

*runs off to test out her theory*

*comes back*

erm... does anyone have a pen...?

And you're rhyming, Nolwë!

Attalus · 12-03-2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/bibli...1-0618126996-0

It's a pretty good book - not completely without flaws - but overall, well worth the dosh forked out.

I agree wholeheartedly. Fonstead has helped me out of many a cartographic dilemma.

***Earniel*** · 01-12-2005, 05:52 AM

*takes stick and gives Bombadillo a mighty good poking until he begs for mercy*

Oy matey, you're late with your next chapter. Very late.

Lenya · 01-20-2005, 07:51 AM

The whole of Silm is brilliant, but Valaquenta and the Numenor piece isn't as good as the rest. But it is worth reading the first part to get to the rest. I have been wanting to reread it also because I can't remember everyone and everything that happend. I read it way to long ago.

***Earniel*** · 03-13-2005, 07:34 AM

*pokes thread back into life*

Oy, Bombadillo, you're still doing this journal update or have you given up?

LickTheEnvelope · 03-18-2005, 03:51 PM

I just finished the Silmarillion and am on to Akallabeth (or Atalante in Quenya) "Downfall of Numeanor."

I must say it has been an incredible read so far... though sometimes I find myself completely forgetting who an individual is the majority stay easy to recall.

Feanor's sons were one group that I really had trouble remembering the names of for quite some time:

Maedhros
Maglor
Celegrom
Caranthir
Curufin
Amrod
Amras

I guess it was simply when i would read "Celegrom, Caranthir, abd Curufin" I would have difficulty distinguishing between them.

But I even liked the first chapters that many say are slow. I thought they blended very nicely into how the world of Tolkien was forged.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-18-2005, 03:53 PM

i always remember curufin the crafty, makes me see him as some sort of wicked fool

11-29-2004, 03:53 PM	#24
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	TD, is that something you should have confessed to me? Angrod and Aegnor, if you want the Sindarin versions. Angrod's the older. So... you can do all of the Feanorion crew? mildly impressed __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

11-29-2004, 04:33 PM	#25
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Should we throw the proverbial spanner into the works? You know, the problematic parentage of Gil-Galad? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

12-03-2004, 01:47 PM	#31
~Nolwë~ Sapling Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ~ over the hills and far away ~ Posts: 8	Okey Dokey then, started to read The Silmarillion and looking for some advice. I'm thinking I would benefit from some good maps. Can anyone recommend a good book of Tolkien Maps? I'd like to ask someone to get it for me as a xmas pressie so I wait with baited breath for a response. Time is of the essence peeps. Thanking ye kindly....... __________________ A star shines upon the hour of our meeting Elen s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo

12-03-2004, 01:50 PM	#32
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/bibli...1-0618126996-0 It's a pretty good book - not completely without flaws - but overall, well worth the dosh forked out. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

12-03-2004, 01:57 PM	#33
~Nolwë~ Sapling Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ~ over the hills and far away ~ Posts: 8	My God, that was quick..... took a look, will ask for book cheerie ma dearie xx __________________ A star shines upon the hour of our meeting Elen s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo

01-12-2005, 05:52 AM	#36
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	takes stick and gives Bombadillo a mighty good poking until he begs for mercy Oy matey, you're late with your next chapter. Very late. __________________ We are not things.

01-20-2005, 07:51 AM	#37
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	The whole of Silm is brilliant, but Valaquenta and the Numenor piece isn't as good as the rest. But it is worth reading the first part to get to the rest. I have been wanting to reread it also because I can't remember everyone and everything that happend. I read it way to long ago.

03-13-2005, 07:34 AM	#38
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	pokes thread back into life Oy, Bombadillo, you're still doing this journal update or have you given up? __________________ We are not things.

03-18-2005, 03:51 PM	#39
LickTheEnvelope Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 28	I just finished the Silmarillion and am on to Akallabeth (or Atalante in Quenya) "Downfall of Numeanor." I must say it has been an incredible read so far... though sometimes I find myself completely forgetting who an individual is the majority stay easy to recall. Feanor's sons were one group that I really had trouble remembering the names of for quite some time: Maedhros Maglor Celegrom Caranthir Curufin Amrod Amras I guess it was simply when i would read "Celegrom, Caranthir, abd Curufin" I would have difficulty distinguishing between them. But I even liked the first chapters that many say are slow. I thought they blended very nicely into how the world of Tolkien was forged.

03-18-2005, 03:53 PM	#40
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i always remember curufin the crafty, makes me see him as some sort of wicked fool

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