Whose fate would you change? - Page 2

ItalianLegolas · 01-18-2005, 04:54 PM

Galadriel?? CREEPY??

Please explain your thought process on this one LCoU.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-18-2005, 05:00 PM

IMO FÃ«anor only went evil because of Melkor. Everything Melkor said to FÃ«anor was to undermine the Valar and turn FÃ«anor against them.

ItalianLegolas · 01-18-2005, 05:21 PM

I mean the Galadriel part

Kellquenti · 01-18-2005, 05:32 PM

Or even Tulkas or Orome , They could get a bit fiesty at times!

ItalianLegolas · 01-18-2005, 05:36 PM

very true, my bet would be on Curunir, because we all know what happened to him in the long wrong

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-18-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItalianLegolas

I mean the Galadriel part

Yeah, I think I cross posted with you.

ElemmÃrÃ« · 01-18-2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItalianLegolas

Galadriel?? CREEPY??

Please explain your thought process on this one LCoU.

Rather power-hungry... Hardly like her big brother at all...

I agree with Spidey, she could easily have followed in the footsteps of Morgoth, Sauron, Feanor...

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-18-2005, 05:55 PM

i quote here from her own words:

terrible as the Morning and the Night

now if that isnt creepy, i dont know what is

ElemmÃrÃ« · 01-18-2005, 05:58 PM

Another pyschotic member of the House of Finwe!

Who could have seen that coming!?!

Embladyne · 01-18-2005, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

i quote here from her own words:

terrible as the Morning and the Night

now if that isnt creepy, i dont know what is

True, but nice girls don't get to rule the world

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-18-2005, 05:59 PM

something about that line, methinks, better call ingwe out to create a new house of elves, and not bother with those bothersome noldor!!

Kellquenti · 01-18-2005, 06:21 PM

Oh Valar, What Have I started?, by the sound of Last child of Ungoliant's reply I've started another Kinslaying! (well I am a Feanorian supporter pr'aps that's the reason!!!!)

Minielin · 01-18-2005, 06:44 PM

Well, the point about Galadriel, I think, isn't that she could have followed in the footsteps of Feanor, Sauron, etc., but rather that she didn't. Despite being tempted (the whole creepy bit), she turned away from the temptation.

I'd change the fate of Beleg, Hurin (same reasons as Lefty, see above), or Turin, because no one deserves that horrid of a life!

Beren3000 · 01-19-2005, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

I agree with Spidey, she could easily have followed in the footsteps of Morgoth, Sauron, Feanor...

I very strongly disagree. While she followed FÃ«anor out of ambition in the first place, she didn't have as much penchant for evil as he did. Remember that in Eregion she was the one who perceived Sauron's mind and wanted to have nothing to do with him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

i quote here from her own words:

terrible as the Morning and the Night

now if that isnt creepy, i dont know what is

Oh, come on! You know that's the Ring talking, don't you? After she "passed the test" Frodo saw her as a beautiful elf-lady but no longer "perilous". I think that this "creepy" impression is a by-product of PJ's movies because she was creepy in that scene you quote. But in the book, she's just a great character who had a moment of weakness. She's no more creepy than Boromir is evil, for instance!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Another pyschotic member of the House of Finwe!

Who could have seen that coming!?!

Oh, so you're FÃ«anorophobic, too?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-19-2005, 12:24 PM

i just dont trust the noldor, i think - they are all weird

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-19-2005, 01:17 PM

I thought Turgon was your favourite character.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-19-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

I thought Turgon was your favourite character.

theres an exception to every rule

Lenya · 01-20-2005, 07:31 AM

Easy question. If it was up to me, Beleg would still be alive. He really deserved it the least to die. And I'm quite sure that if he had not died, he would have been able to prevent that little disaster between Turin & his sister.

Embladyne · 01-21-2005, 10:06 PM

I pretty much agree with you, Lenya. Besides, I wanted to read more about Beleg, and was sad that he died so soon. Sooo, even if Turin still did horrible things, at least there would have been more of Beleg. Actually, no. Beleg should have accidentally killed Turin instead of Turin killing him. Or something to that effect.

***Earniel*** · 01-22-2005, 06:27 AM

I would change MÃ*riel's fate, the last queen of NÃºmenor. The poor lass didn't have it easy, being one of the Faithful at heart but being forced in a marriage to have her throne and right to rule stripped from her while her husband destroyed NÃºmenor before her very eyes. I would have made her board the ships in Romenna and survive the tidal wave so that she could have set her own realm up in Middle-earth.

01-18-2005, 04:54 PM	#21
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	Galadriel?? CREEPY?? Please explain your thought process on this one LCoU. __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-18-2005, 05:00 PM	#22
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	IMO FÃ«anor only went evil because of Melkor. Everything Melkor said to FÃ«anor was to undermine the Valar and turn FÃ«anor against them. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-18-2005, 05:21 PM	#23
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	I mean the Galadriel part __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-18-2005, 05:36 PM	#25
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	very true, my bet would be on Curunir, because we all know what happened to him in the long wrong __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-18-2005, 05:58 PM	#29
ElemmÃrÃ« avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	Another pyschotic member of the House of Finwe! Who could have seen that coming!?! __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

01-18-2005, 05:32 PM	#24
Kellquenti Enting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midhurst UK Posts: 88	Or even Tulkas or Orome , They could get a bit fiesty at times!

01-18-2005, 05:55 PM	#28
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i quote here from her own words: terrible as the Morning and the Night now if that isnt creepy, i dont know what is

01-18-2005, 05:59 PM	#31
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	something about that line, methinks, better call ingwe out to create a new house of elves, and not bother with those bothersome noldor!!

01-18-2005, 06:21 PM	#32
Kellquenti Enting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midhurst UK Posts: 88	Oh Valar, What Have I started?, by the sound of Last child of Ungoliant's reply I've started another Kinslaying! (well I am a Feanorian supporter pr'aps that's the reason!!!!)

01-18-2005, 06:44 PM	#33
Minielin Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: I dwell in possibility. Posts: 247	Well, the point about Galadriel, I think, isn't that she could have followed in the footsteps of Feanor, Sauron, etc., but rather that she didn't. Despite being tempted (the whole creepy bit), she turned away from the temptation. I'd change the fate of Beleg, Hurin (same reasons as Lefty, see above), or Turin, because no one deserves that horrid of a life! __________________ "...then how shall I Revive the dying tones of minstrelsy, Which linger yet about lone gothic arches, In dark green ivy, and among wild larches?" Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum.

01-19-2005, 12:24 PM	#35
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i just dont trust the noldor, i think - they are all weird

01-19-2005, 01:17 PM	#36
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I thought Turgon was your favourite character. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-20-2005, 07:31 AM	#38
Lenya ElentÃ¡ri Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	Easy question. If it was up to me, Beleg would still be alive. He really deserved it the least to die. And I'm quite sure that if he had not died, he would have been able to prevent that little disaster between Turin & his sister.

01-21-2005, 10:06 PM	#39
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	I pretty much agree with you, Lenya. Besides, I wanted to read more about Beleg, and was sad that he died so soon. Sooo, even if Turin still did horrible things, at least there would have been more of Beleg. Actually, no. Beleg should have accidentally killed Turin instead of Turin killing him. Or something to that effect. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page Last edited by Embladyne : 01-21-2005 at 10:07 PM.

01-22-2005, 06:27 AM	#40
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I would change MÃ*riel's fate, the last queen of NÃºmenor. The poor lass didn't have it easy, being one of the Faithful at heart but being forced in a marriage to have her throne and right to rule stripped from her while her husband destroyed NÃºmenor before her very eyes. I would have made her board the ships in Romenna and survive the tidal wave so that she could have set her own realm up in Middle-earth. __________________ We are not things.

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