Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Page 2

Radagast The Brown · 01-04-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Minielin

There were four accused/convicted of torturing the Longbottoms... Bellatrix, husband & brother (the Lestranges) and Crouch Jr.

I thought that was it, just don't remember ever reading about it. You see... it's said they were young, and I thought Bellatrix was about 40.. But she was, I guess in the age of Sirius, and he was young back then.

Ok. Thanks.

Sween · 01-12-2005, 06:43 PM

i think the half half blood prince could be Gilderoy Lockhart could be the half blood prince just reading the name orgins the 'roy' part of Gildroy means regal one or king. JK is very clever (or not so clever for anyone who knows latin and probably can see all plot points before they finish the book) in hideing important clues in every characters name pretty much expect the lead ones i could be wrong but no one else seems to of made this connection. Plus why introduce him in OoTP if he had no further part to play!

Minielin · 01-15-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sween

i think the half half blood prince could be Gilderoy Lockhart could be the half blood prince just reading the name orgins the 'roy' part of Gildroy means regal one or king.

Gilderoy is probably Gild + roy (roi) to mean ornamented/decorous king (putting one in mind of the lavish Louis XIV of France, "le sol-roi" or sun king), but the name (I'm guessing) probably refers more to his celebrity status and ostentatiousness than anything.

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Originally Posted by Sween

Plus why introduce him in OoTP if he had no further part to play!

He probably does have a further part to play, though it might be argued that his purpose in OOTP was simply to drag the gang in to have the chance to see Neville's parents...

inked · 01-15-2005, 03:57 PM

Minielin,

I concur with your statements. As to GL - think "all that glitters is not gold" and you have the measure of the man, alas, in his entirety! He had a purely perfunctory role as you note in OotP.

Elf Girl · 01-15-2005, 04:54 PM

I think the half blood prince is a new character, because the titles of the books tend to introduce new ideas. Look-

Philosopher's Stone- not mentioned before, since there were no previous books.
Chamber of Secrets- wasn't mentioned before the book came out.
Prisoner of Azkaban- not only did we have no idea who the prisoner was, it turned out to be someone we hadn't seen yet. (He was mentioned briefly in PS, but I think he was still a new character.)
Goblet of Fire- again, the Goblet wasn't mentioned before the book itself came out.
Order of the Phoenix- It hadn't been mentioned before- Dumbledore simply referred to 'the old crowd.'

So, since none of the other title elements was known before the book was published, I don't think we have yet met the Half-Blood Prince.

Minielin · 01-15-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elf Girl

I think the half blood prince is a new character, because the titles of the books tend to introduce new ideas.

I think so too.

ItalianLegolas · 01-22-2005, 03:15 PM

does anyone know the exact date when its coming out??

what if the half-blood prince is harry? although that wouldn't make much sense because its harry potter and the half-blood prince. which seems to suggest they are two different entities.

sirigorn · 01-22-2005, 03:49 PM

July 16, 2005.

And it's not Harry. Jo said so. She also said it's not Voldie or Tom Riddle, who some people consider to be different people. And there are rumors going around that she said that Hagrid isn't either, but it hasn't been confirmed.

ItalianLegolas · 01-23-2005, 10:06 AM

HAGRID? A PRINCE? that would be funny.

Pytt · 01-23-2005, 12:56 PM

Hagrid? who have even thought of that? But I suppose it isn't that far of. after all he is of half blood

anyway, I CAN'T WAIT until it comes

ItalianLegolas · 01-23-2005, 06:58 PM

maybe its malfoy, and hes like, a demonic prince!

Halbarad of the Dunedain · 01-23-2005, 08:43 PM

I think J.K is missleading all of her readers. (purposfully and properly mind you.) I think that the book will start out with a discovery that there is a half blood prince and throught the book the identity will be searched out. After a while they will learn they were mistaken, its nto a half blood prince, its a half blood princess... Hermoine(SP?) She is a "mug blood"(or is she) and yet she is the greatest witch of her time. Thats the story I am going with. Malfoy is to obvious after harry and voldy.

ItalianLegolas · 01-23-2005, 09:18 PM

that is a very convoluted idea HotD, so convolted, it just might work... No but seriously, the way that J.K. works, anything is possible

Sween · 01-24-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halbarad of the Dunedain

I think J.K is missleading all of her readers. (purposfully and properly mind you.) I think that the book will start out with a discovery that there is a half blood prince and throught the book the identity will be searched out. After a while they will learn they were mistaken, its nto a half blood prince, its a half blood princess... Hermoine(SP?) She is a "mug blood"(or is she) and yet she is the greatest witch of her time. Thats the story I am going with. Malfoy is to obvious after harry and voldy.

Surely it would then of been called 'Harry and the Half Blood Princess'

ItalianLegolas · 01-24-2005, 03:57 PM

no, because that wouldn't be misleading

Radagast The Brown · 01-24-2005, 04:27 PM

I disagree, doesn't make sense it's Hermione. First, it is 'Prince', so unless they think there's a Prince in the beginning, it can't be Hermione. Second - I agree with Elf Girl, a few posts before - it most likely someone we haven't met yet, and there's no way to know who it is. Because he wasn't mentioned (as all the other themes in the Harry Potter series till now).

ItalianLegolas · 01-24-2005, 04:54 PM

now i'm confused, i don't know what to think!

**Nurvingiel** · 01-24-2005, 05:53 PM

Yes, "Prince" does imply dude. Hermione is an interesting theory, but she's not half-blooded in anything. Neither is Malfoy.

Now that someone has said it, I think it most likely is Hagrid - a half-giant. A new character is very possible too.

Manveru · 01-24-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Radagast The Brown

I disagree, doesn't make sense it's Hermione. First, it is 'Prince', so unless they think there's a Prince in the beginning, it can't be Hermione.

maybe hermione gets a sex change?

ItalianLegolas · 01-24-2005, 07:41 PM

this is a children's book were talking about here

01-12-2005, 06:43 PM	#22
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	i think the half half blood prince could be Gilderoy Lockhart could be the half blood prince just reading the name orgins the 'roy' part of Gildroy means regal one or king. JK is very clever (or not so clever for anyone who knows latin and probably can see all plot points before they finish the book) in hideing important clues in every characters name pretty much expect the lead ones i could be wrong but no one else seems to of made this connection. Plus why introduce him in OoTP if he had no further part to play! __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

01-15-2005, 03:57 PM	#24
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Minielin, I concur with your statements. As to GL - think "all that glitters is not gold" and you have the measure of the man, alas, in his entirety! He had a purely perfunctory role as you note in OotP. __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

01-15-2005, 04:54 PM	#25
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I think the half blood prince is a new character, because the titles of the books tend to introduce new ideas. Look- Philosopher's Stone- not mentioned before, since there were no previous books. Chamber of Secrets- wasn't mentioned before the book came out. Prisoner of Azkaban- not only did we have no idea who the prisoner was, it turned out to be someone we hadn't seen yet. (He was mentioned briefly in PS, but I think he was still a new character.) Goblet of Fire- again, the Goblet wasn't mentioned before the book itself came out. Order of the Phoenix- It hadn't been mentioned before- Dumbledore simply referred to 'the old crowd.' So, since none of the other title elements was known before the book was published, I don't think we have yet met the Half-Blood Prince. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium... Last edited by Elf Girl : 01-22-2005 at 04:56 PM.

01-22-2005, 03:15 PM	#27
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	does anyone know the exact date when its coming out?? what if the half-blood prince is harry? although that wouldn't make much sense because its harry potter and the half-blood prince. which seems to suggest they are two different entities. __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-22-2005, 03:49 PM	#28
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	July 16, 2005. And it's not Harry. Jo said so. She also said it's not Voldie or Tom Riddle, who some people consider to be different people. And there are rumors going around that she said that Hagrid isn't either, but it hasn't been confirmed. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

01-23-2005, 10:06 AM	#29
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	HAGRID? A PRINCE? that would be funny. __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-23-2005, 12:56 PM	#30
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	Hagrid? who have even thought of that? But I suppose it isn't that far of. after all he is of half blood anyway, I CAN'T WAIT until it comes __________________ Don't Panic!

01-23-2005, 06:58 PM	#31
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	maybe its malfoy, and hes like, a demonic prince! __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-23-2005, 08:43 PM	#32
Halbarad of the Dunedain Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arthedian Posts: 460	I think J.K is missleading all of her readers. (purposfully and properly mind you.) I think that the book will start out with a discovery that there is a half blood prince and throught the book the identity will be searched out. After a while they will learn they were mistaken, its nto a half blood prince, its a half blood princess... Hermoine(SP?) She is a "mug blood"(or is she) and yet she is the greatest witch of her time. Thats the story I am going with. Malfoy is to obvious after harry and voldy. __________________ "Can you feel her, running through your veins? She will always live forever!" ~ Atreyu [Her portrait in Black] "I want to see pretty people doing ugly things..." ~ Unknown "Damn it n' such!" ~ Stewie Griffen

01-23-2005, 09:18 PM	#33
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	that is a very convoluted idea HotD, so convolted, it just might work... No but seriously, the way that J.K. works, anything is possible __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-24-2005, 03:57 PM	#35
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	no, because that wouldn't be misleading __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-24-2005, 04:27 PM	#36
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I disagree, doesn't make sense it's Hermione. First, it is 'Prince', so unless they think there's a Prince in the beginning, it can't be Hermione. Second - I agree with Elf Girl, a few posts before - it most likely someone we haven't met yet, and there's no way to know who it is. Because he wasn't mentioned (as all the other themes in the Harry Potter series till now). __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

01-24-2005, 04:54 PM	#37
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	now i'm confused, i don't know what to think! __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-24-2005, 07:41 PM	#40
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	this is a children's book were talking about here __________________ What was lost is now found.