Favorite Bad Guys (NEWBIE-FRIENDLY THREAD) - Page 2

brego · 11-26-2004, 10:58 AM

im all for the nazgul

me9996 · 11-26-2004, 08:47 PM

Ether soron or saaaaaarrrrruuuuuuuuuuummmmmannnnnnnnnnnnnn
(Get it?

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Elemmírë · 12-05-2004, 01:04 AM

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Favorite Bad Guys (NEWBIE-FRIENDLY THREAD)

I'm a Newbie.

hm... it would have to be something that was Silm based... and not Sauron, considering what he did to Finrod...

the Balrog, maybe.

eyesofsorrow · 01-08-2005, 01:08 PM

Oh! My best friend thinks Gollum is the best character, good or bad! And the scary thing is, that's the truth!

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-18-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer

Shagrat. With a name like that, you've gotta love him.

dunno wat the rspca wud say, tho

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Originally Posted by Nolendil (sorry no funny accents etc)

I agree with mithrand1r, 'Auruman was the best bad guy, not because of his personality, but more because of his hair-do. Nobody does thick and bushy hair like Sauruman (save maybe Sam the bushman, or Aragorn of the No-Pants, or good ol' melodramatic-milk-the-cow-while-you-talk Gandalf). I just wish 'Auruman could have had a nice conversation with Seleborn, and then we all would have had a good laugh. ... Or anyway those that know what the heck I'm talking about would.

my favourite bad guy is the ring, because as gandalf would say
"that ring is alltogether <wave arms in sweepin motion> evil, frodo

or maybe soor-onn, with his "wacky" horned helmet, a la knights who say ni!

Sauron is definitely the topman with regards to being downright cool and bad at the same time

Embladyne · 01-18-2005, 08:13 PM

Smaug, definitely, but as the bad guy is supposed to be in LOTR...
Well, it's not really a guy, and it's not really bad, but I really like the oliphants...they were used for an evil purpose, and it makes me cry.

Lenya · 01-19-2005, 03:16 PM

Denethor, cause his really creepy and he totally looses it at the end - he makes an excellent bad guy.

And yes, he must qualify an one of the bad guys, even if it is just for wanting to burn his son alive.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-19-2005, 05:12 PM

But he didn't think he was alive. I don't think Denethor classifies as a bad guy. He wasn't really bad he was just confused and had beentaken advantage of by Sauron.

Lenya · 01-19-2005, 05:44 PM

Yes he was taken advantage of, but that means he was made one of the bad guys. He deserted his people when they needed him and (can't remember but I think) he refused to listen when they told him Faramir was still alive and hence he tried to burn him. And he was the cause for a lot of trouble and pain in Gondor.

Embladyne · 01-19-2005, 05:49 PM

I just don't want to think of Denethor as a bad guy. He's one of those people that, after they're dead, you remember them when they were wise and strong.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-19-2005, 05:50 PM

No, only Pippin said that he wasn IIRC. His other servants wouldn't dare.

Embladyne · 01-19-2005, 05:53 PM

Yeah, and at that point, he was no longer mentally stable in any respect, so it's hard to say that he might have acted differently if the others had also told him his son was still living. All that was real to him was what his mind fatalisticlly told him must be true.

Lenya · 01-19-2005, 06:11 PM

It doesn't make a difference that he was psyco. He still didn't do anything good and he wasn't a good man.

Manveru · 01-19-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Embladyne

Yeah, and at that point, he was no longer mentally stable in any respect, so it's hard to say that he might have acted differently if the others had also told him his son was still living. All that was real to him was what his mind fatalisticlly told him must be true.

If Denethor is a bad guy then Hamlet is a bad guy

Embladyne · 01-20-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Manveru

If Denethor is a bad guy then Hamlet is a bad guy

I don't think that he is. Some people do, though...and they have their reasoning. I was trying to support why I thought he was not a bad guy.

Mrs.Gimli · 01-28-2005, 10:23 PM

Witch king for me

The Wizard from Milan · 01-29-2005, 12:50 AM

i don't know if the One Ring count as a character but I am totally enthralled with it! ...my precious

Bombadillo · 01-29-2005, 01:01 AM

I could have sworn there was a thread about that somewhere, but I can't find it. Some consider the Ring a character. I was fascinated by it also. My first avatar was a picture of it and the words "This little thing?"

Welcome to the Moot!

Elemmírë · 01-29-2005, 01:26 AM

I think it could count as a person.

I wonder about the Silmarilli...

...oops, sorry Bombadillo!

Bombadillo · 01-29-2005, 02:02 AM

It should be a releif for you to know I dismiss all spoilers I accidently come across, since chances are you have no idea what you're talking about anyway.

Did you notice I'm not in stealth mode anymore?

My favorite baddie is Saruman. He must have made the funniest shocked face in the book when Gandalf flew away from his tower. Plus he was most complex as Nurv said.

Don't you think if Saruman's a bad guy Denethor should be too? That's the only role he played in LotR, despite how unfortunately his mind was seized from him by Sauron.

11-26-2004, 10:58 AM	#21
brego Sapling Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8	im all for the nazgul __________________ Once apon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, O'er many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore- While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door. 'Tis some visitor," I muttered,"tapping at my chamber door- Only this and nothing more." The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe

11-26-2004, 08:47 PM	#22
me9996 Ring-smith Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Either walking across Rohan or riding through Fangorn forest Posts: 2,000	My "fave"? (Can't spell full lingth word) Ether soron or saaaaaarrrrruuuuuuuuuuummmmmannnnnnnnnnnnnn (Get it? )

01-08-2005, 01:08 PM	#24
eyesofsorrow Sapling Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10	Oh! My best friend thinks Gollum is the best character, good or bad! And the scary thing is, that's the truth! __________________ Eyes of Sorrow

01-18-2005, 08:13 PM	#26
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Smaug, definitely, but as the bad guy is supposed to be in LOTR... Well, it's not really a guy, and it's not really bad, but I really like the oliphants...they were used for an evil purpose, and it makes me cry. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-19-2005, 05:12 PM	#28
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	But he didn't think he was alive. I don't think Denethor classifies as a bad guy. He wasn't really bad he was just confused and had beentaken advantage of by Sauron. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-19-2005, 03:16 PM	#27
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	Denethor, cause his really creepy and he totally looses it at the end - he makes an excellent bad guy. And yes, he must qualify an one of the bad guys, even if it is just for wanting to burn his son alive.

01-19-2005, 05:44 PM	#29
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	Yes he was taken advantage of, but that means he was made one of the bad guys. He deserted his people when they needed him and (can't remember but I think) he refused to listen when they told him Faramir was still alive and hence he tried to burn him. And he was the cause for a lot of trouble and pain in Gondor.

01-19-2005, 05:49 PM	#30
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	I just don't want to think of Denethor as a bad guy. He's one of those people that, after they're dead, you remember them when they were wise and strong. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-19-2005, 05:50 PM	#31
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	No, only Pippin said that he wasn IIRC. His other servants wouldn't dare. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-19-2005, 05:53 PM	#32
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Yeah, and at that point, he was no longer mentally stable in any respect, so it's hard to say that he might have acted differently if the others had also told him his son was still living. All that was real to him was what his mind fatalisticlly told him must be true. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-19-2005, 06:11 PM	#33
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	It doesn't make a difference that he was psyco. He still didn't do anything good and he wasn't a good man.

01-28-2005, 10:23 PM	#36
Mrs.Gimli Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39	Witch king for me

01-29-2005, 12:50 AM	#37
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	i don't know if the One Ring count as a character but I am totally enthralled with it! ...my precious

01-29-2005, 01:01 AM	#38
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	I could have sworn there was a thread about that somewhere, but I can't find it. Some consider the Ring a character. I was fascinated by it also. My first avatar was a picture of it and the words "This little thing?" Welcome to the Moot! __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

01-29-2005, 01:26 AM	#39
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	I think it could count as a person. I wonder about the Silmarilli... ...oops, sorry Bombadillo! __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

01-29-2005, 02:02 AM	#40
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	It should be a releif for you to know I dismiss all spoilers I accidently come across, since chances are you have no idea what you're talking about anyway. Did you notice I'm not in stealth mode anymore? My favorite baddie is Saruman. He must have made the funniest shocked face in the book when Gandalf flew away from his tower. Plus he was most complex as Nurv said. Don't you think if Saruman's a bad guy Denethor should be too? That's the only role he played in LotR, despite how unfortunately his mind was seized from him by Sauron. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

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