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Old 10-15-2011, 01:15 PM   #21
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It was indeed an insightful post. Good to hear from you, AE!
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:06 PM   #22
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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

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Old 10-18-2011, 11:12 PM   #23
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Well, guess I failed to delete and fix that post
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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:33 AM   #24
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Your code is busted. You need a ] in place of a = for it to work. Like this:

[quote]Good to hear from you, AE![/QUOTE]

or

[quote=Attalus]Good to hear from you, AE![/quote]

(cheated so the codes show up)

I'll take care of the extra posts, members can't delete posts, only the contents of them.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:45 AM   #25
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Thanks Eärniel
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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:47 AM   #26
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Wow, somehow I can't believe that I've returned to find some info that I can offer!
(I suddenly feel so useful.)

Aragorn received a fantastic gold sheath for the newly-forged Anduril from Galadriel, during the gift-giving ceremony on the banks of the Anduin, in Loth Lorien.

She warned him very carefully:
`Here is the gift of Celeborn and Galadriel to the leader of your Company,' she said to Aragorn, and she gave him a sheath that had been made to fit his sword. It was overlaid with a tracery of flowers and leaves wrought of silver and gold, and on it were set in elven runes formed of many gems the name Andúril and the lineage of the sword.
`The blade that is drawn from this sheath shall not be stained or broken even in defeat,' she said.

I have read many an attempt at explaining the spells upon that sheath, and one of them was that only the true owner of the blade could draw the sword and live.

Think of his careful wording:
'Here I set it,' he said; 'but I command you not to touch it, nor to permit any other to lay hand on it. In this elvish sheath dwells the Blade that was Broken and has been made again. Telchar first wrought it in the deeps of time. Death shall come to any man that draws Elendil's sword save Elendil's heir.'

It is apparent that he will not "kill" the man who draws the sword from the sheath, for Aragorn as we well know is a nobleman, not a boor. No, the sword will take care of itself from now on. It's stainless, (stainless steel?!)
impervious to shattering (that's always nice) and kiils anyone who tries to use it but it's rightful owner, the Heirs of Elendil. Way cool. Galadriel was some powerful chick, no?

It is my opinion that the method of death will come not in slaying or poisoning, but as Tolkien was so fond of, accidental/unfortunate/destiny deaths such as those that happened in the tales of the Silmarils.

Aragorn was certainly decked out. Sword that takes care of itself, and Stone that heals and gives second sight? Awesome. Not for nothing did he rise to power so quickly, with Galadriel's help.



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Old 10-19-2011, 06:17 PM   #27
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More likely its a personal threat from Aragorn, something like:
"You touch my sword and I'll kill you!"
This is effectively my take, but a bit more like
If the unworthey shall profane the sword of Kings with his touch, verily shall he suffer death.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:50 AM   #28
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I think it's a power placed within the sword at its forging, and will operate through its agency, just like the Ring- maybe by leading the unlawful wielder into making insane challenges or charging into hopeless situations through over-confidence in his weapon.

Also note that Galadriel's blessing on the sheath doesn't say anything about inflicting punishment on the unworthy who draw the sword.

One complaint that I have is that, after Aragorn humping this most valuable but useless heirloom all over the countryside, we skip the actual reforging-it's mentioned briefly in passing- seems a bit of a diss.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:24 PM   #29
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Why useless? One can cut bread or rope. On occasion it might work as a machete to chop bushes or mow grass...

Seems Aragorn had a highly developed inferiority complex. It explains why he has never hesitated to mention his and his arms uniqueness at every opportunity, naturally, with a little bit exaggeration.
Can you blame a man for overstating his importance when no one seems have even a little respect to the company he had arrived with?

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Old 10-26-2011, 08:34 PM   #30
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Why useless? One can cut bread or rope. On occasion it might work as a machete to chop bushes or mow grass...

Seems Aragorn had a highly developed inferiority complex. It explains why he has never hesitated to mention his and his arms uniqueness at every opportunity, naturally, with a little bit exaggeration.
Can you blame a man for overstating his importance when no one seems have even a little respect to the company he had arrived with?
It's been a couple of years, I think, since I've posted here, decided on a whim to stop in for a peek, and gotta laugh - Olmer, you are yourself as unchanging as stainless steel and as consistent as the sunrise, Bro'.

I agree with the interpretation that Aragorn would not personally meet out any punishment to the improper wielder but rather the wielder would bring bad luck upon himself.
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