Better than LOTR? - Page 2

LickTheEnvelope · 12-01-2004, 05:11 PM

Actually I preffered the Hobbit to LOTR... don't know why. Perhaps the Dragon, or the fact it was the first one I read.

***Earniel*** · 12-01-2004, 05:38 PM

It is your good right to like the Hobbit better, LTE.

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Pytt · 12-01-2004, 06:02 PM

I think LoTR is better. It was the first of the books I read( or more correctly heard), and besides I think the LoTR is more magic, more thrilling.

Mrs.Gimli · 01-27-2005, 02:38 PM

you are totalyyyyy right

me9996 · 03-20-2005, 01:19 PM

The hobbit is a prequill to LotR and LotR is the hobbits sequill.
So, I think:

LotR is for older children and the hobbit is for yonger ones

Twista · 03-20-2005, 03:52 PM

The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways.

However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception.

me9996 · 03-20-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twista

The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways.

However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception.

Gotya.

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Tamuril Sirfalas · 11-16-2005, 10:21 PM

as for me i prefer the LOTRS to the hobbit. the hobbit is light and LOTRS is much darker than the hobbit...don't get me wrong i olove the LOTRS!!!!

Elanor · 11-17-2005, 07:24 PM

Interesting question. I agree with what most people have said. I prefer LotR overall, because the story is so meaningful and complex, and appeals to readers on so many different levels. On one hand, Tolkien was telling his kids stories about Tom Bombadil and silly Father Christmas elves; on the other, he was inventing this awesome language and mythology of Numenor, Valinor, high elves, and Melkor. Then these two elements came together and created this fascinating world that contains everything from hobbits splashing water in a tub to kings commanding armies of the dead, and then there's an evil ring that exerts such a subtle but powerful effect on the world, and it's just amazing. I think the Hobbit was the first step toward that, and shows hints of the greatness to come (I particularly like the Riddle game and the Arkenstone plot), but ultimately the Lord of the Rings is the culmination of Tolkien's genius.

Tamuril Sirfalas · 11-21-2005, 01:40 PM

the riddle game was so cool. i especially liked the riddle gollum made about the fish but i cant remember all of it so could you guys help me out?
i think it goes:
alive without breath,
as cold as death
ever drinking
never thirsting... thats all i can remember hope i said it right!!

Faerdhinen · 11-23-2005, 04:32 PM

Not better but ... easier, funnier, brighter. Nearly as cool as LotR.

Elanor · 12-02-2005, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamuril Sirfalas

the riddle game was so cool. i especially liked the riddle gollum made about the fish but i cant remember all of it so could you guys help me out?
i think it goes:
alive without breath,
as cold as death
ever drinking
never thirsting... thats all i can remember hope i said it right!!

Alive without breath,
As cold as death;
Never thirsty, ever drinking,
All in mail, never clinking.

Gandalfthegray, you hate hobbits?

I don't think LotR is necessarily darker than the Hobbit. It has more dark moments, but it also has plenty of light-hearted ones. The generalization I would make is that it's more complex.

But I would also say that the elves in the Hobbit are inconsistent with those in the Lord of the Rings. In LotR, you couldn't imagine elves like Elrond and Glorfindel hopping around singing, "Tra la-la-lally", and teasing the dwarves. But in the Hobbit, they do.

Beleg Strongbow · 12-17-2002, 09:23 AM

deeper? More intruiging? a better read?

Varda Oiolosseo · 12-17-2002, 03:31 PM

And longer and can take you longer which is good!
Because once you start reading you know it's going to last longer!!! And after a while...infact straight away you are living in Middle-Earth for a while...I live there all the time actually!

Skinny.Demon · 12-17-2002, 03:40 PM

Thats not a bad place to live...

Legolas_is_fit · 12-23-2002, 05:25 AM

Dont get me wrong the hobbit is an amazing book and it would be good to make a film. But the fact is LOTR is like the most thrilling and exciting book I've ever read.

Blackboar · 12-23-2002, 01:52 PM

I agree with you there Legolas_!!
I think in LotR you can imagine more!! More chracters etc!

eg at the begining of TH I couln't imagine Bag end, just a random hole in the middle of nowhere.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 01-01-2003, 05:31 PM

I like The Hobbit and LoTR but I like the The Hobbit better.

Noahamir · 01-02-2003, 09:55 PM

I enjoy the Lord of the Rings more as a story, but I think that I enjoy Bilbo as a Character more than any other character in either book.

His Clever Dialogue with Smaug is my favorite moment off all the books, followed by his funny song he sings to piss of the Spiders in Mirkwood.

Lady of Rohan · 01-12-2003, 10:03 AM

i like lotr more then the hobbit but both books where really good. i like lotr better because there is more to imagine (and more to get confused about) and it is more exciting. not to say that the hobbit wasn't exciting or any thing!

12-01-2004, 05:38 PM	#2
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	It is your good right to like the Hobbit better, LTE. Welcome to the Entmoot, by the way! __________________ We are not things.

12-01-2004, 06:02 PM	#3
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	I think LoTR is better. It was the first of the books I read( or more correctly heard), and besides I think the LoTR is more magic, more thrilling. __________________ Don't Panic!

03-20-2005, 03:52 PM	#6
Twista Orodruin's Flame Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kananaskis, AB Posts: 1,194	The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways. However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception. __________________ Council of Entmoot - Foreign Affairs Minister - 2004-05 Visit the Ye Olde Avatar Shop and The New One Dont tell me what I cannot do Two men are on a Island, they both see a "monster", one sees a bright light, and the other sees a dark cloud My name bares no reference to the music artist.

11-16-2005, 10:21 PM	#8
Tamuril Sirfalas Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 340	as for me i prefer the LOTRS to the hobbit. the hobbit is light and LOTRS is much darker than the hobbit...don't get me wrong i olove the LOTRS!!!! __________________ Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! REST IN PEACE GRANDMA, GREAT AUNT, GREAT UNCLE .....they're gunna fly with the angels now so say goodbye..but i can't. You don't really realize the importance of someone until they are gone

11-17-2005, 07:24 PM	#9
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	Interesting question. I agree with what most people have said. I prefer LotR overall, because the story is so meaningful and complex, and appeals to readers on so many different levels. On one hand, Tolkien was telling his kids stories about Tom Bombadil and silly Father Christmas elves; on the other, he was inventing this awesome language and mythology of Numenor, Valinor, high elves, and Melkor. Then these two elements came together and created this fascinating world that contains everything from hobbits splashing water in a tub to kings commanding armies of the dead, and then there's an evil ring that exerts such a subtle but powerful effect on the world, and it's just amazing. I think the Hobbit was the first step toward that, and shows hints of the greatness to come (I particularly like the Riddle game and the Arkenstone plot), but ultimately the Lord of the Rings is the culmination of Tolkien's genius. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

12-01-2004, 05:11 PM	#1
LickTheEnvelope Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 28	Actually I preffered the Hobbit to LOTR... don't know why. Perhaps the Dragon, or the fact it was the first one I read.

01-27-2005, 02:38 PM	#4
Mrs.Gimli Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39	you are totalyyyyy right

11-21-2005, 01:40 PM	#10
Tamuril Sirfalas Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 340	the riddle game was so cool. i especially liked the riddle gollum made about the fish but i cant remember all of it so could you guys help me out? i think it goes: alive without breath, as cold as death ever drinking never thirsting... thats all i can remember hope i said it right!! __________________ Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! REST IN PEACE GRANDMA, GREAT AUNT, GREAT UNCLE .....they're gunna fly with the angels now so say goodbye..but i can't. You don't really realize the importance of someone until they are gone

11-23-2005, 04:32 PM	#11
Faerdhinen Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost in Middle-Earth Posts: 23	Not better but ... easier, funnier, brighter. Nearly as cool as LotR. __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams

12-17-2002, 09:23 AM	#13
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	deeper? More intruiging? a better read? __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

12-17-2002, 03:31 PM	#14
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	And longer and can take you longer which is good! Because once you start reading you know it's going to last longer!!! And after a while...infact straight away you are living in Middle-Earth for a while...I live there all the time actually!

12-17-2002, 03:40 PM	#15
Skinny.Demon Sapling Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 10	Thats not a bad place to live... __________________ The Ring Bearer Forums

12-23-2002, 05:25 AM	#16
Legolas_is_fit Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: a dustbin Posts: 109	Dont get me wrong the hobbit is an amazing book and it would be good to make a film. But the fact is LOTR is like the most thrilling and exciting book I've ever read. __________________ Aragon:We need to get across to the gate. Gimli:A dwaf cant jump that distance..Toss me. Aragon:What? Gimli:Toss me over to the gate. But just dont tell the elf. Aragon:Ok I promise Well it goes along those lines i cant remember the exact words

12-23-2002, 01:52 PM	#17
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I agree with you there Legolas_!! I think in LotR you can imagine more!! More chracters etc! eg at the begining of TH I couln't imagine Bag end, just a random hole in the middle of nowhere.

01-01-2003, 05:31 PM	#18
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	I like The Hobbit and LoTR but I like the The Hobbit better.

01-02-2003, 09:55 PM	#19
Noahamir Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 29	I enjoy the Lord of the Rings more as a story, but I think that I enjoy Bilbo as a Character more than any other character in either book. His Clever Dialogue with Smaug is my favorite moment off all the books, followed by his funny song he sings to piss of the Spiders in Mirkwood.

01-12-2003, 10:03 AM	#20
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	i like lotr more then the hobbit but both books where really good. i like lotr better because there is more to imagine (and more to get confused about) and it is more exciting. not to say that the hobbit wasn't exciting or any thing!

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