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I think LWW should be read first:
1. It introduces Aslan very well...mysterious...expectant...builds up...who is this "Aslan"...etc. MM assumes you know about Aslan already. 1.5 Lewis wrote them beginning with LWW, so his ideas and themes and thoughts progress in the published order, and un-chronologically. 2. You get the general feel for the series in LWW (as well as an intro to the symbolism/theology). 3. MN is a flashback. 4. MN (about beginning) and Last Battle (about end) go well together.
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01-01-2006, 06:59 PM | #23 |
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When I first read them, LWW was the first in the series, and so I tend toward thinking that is the best way. It's fun to later read MN and say, oh, that's Prf. Kirke, oh, that's how the lampost came to be there, etc.
But then I think that reading MN first is perfectly acceptable, because then upon reading LWW the same thing would happen in reverse ("I know how that got there, I know who she is," etc.). The only book that doesn't fit perfectly is HHB, because it kind of flashes back from the end of LWW, but that's okay. The reader would still see it the same way. So, Val, either way would be fine! |
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As I have ranted before, it is publication order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dost thou sayest read the SILMARILLION firstest? No, precioussssssssssssss, thou dost not! edit: 11-24-2004 http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.ph...4&page=4&pp=20 #63 Well, I am going to go all over nerdy here about the recent publications of the CoN because I came across them numbered IN PROPER CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE PER NARNIAN TIME! The only proper sequence to read them in for the first time is publication order in my inestimable and not at all humble nor modest opinion! It's, it's blasphemy, that's what it is, to number them for unsuspecting gift giving adults to buy for children!!! Some poor soul will now encounter them as though they were historically accurate renditions of Narnia instead of the wonderfully kaleidescoped published sequence. Ahh, the lack of romance and adventure to encounter Aslan as in TMN rather than LWW!!!! I hear there are persons who consider this chronological series read to be proper and the only correct way to read TCON BUT that is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG (did I mention I regard that view as erroneous?)! I adduce the very proper stage and television and BBC productions of the series as further evidence of my thesis! And the ERTV/Kraft foods animated movie, as well! And the intended current productions!!!!!!!!! Everyone knows they should be produced as published! Egads! Has the world gone enumeration delusional? *breathes* Oh, the horror of it! Is it the baleful influence of the enumerated HP series casting a bewitchment of arithmancy over the whole publishing industry? DO those chaps/chappettes in the booking world think that works of fiction need be cast all in the modes of artificial history a la Tolkein? Will they next number all the extant Tolkeiniana in the same fashion from Silmarillion to HoME whatever we are at? (And a good long lifetime to 'em if they try that!) Shall we have Charles Williams novels subjected to the iniquities of this ilk? *breathes...again* I dare say sequentially narrative Lord Peter Wimsey novels are published as such for they were produced as such! But this irritatingly anachronistical ephemeral fad of producing numbered TCON is simply WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! To enter Narnia unaccompanied by Mr. Tumnus on the first visit???? It is sacrilege! Do not succumb to this mania for enumeration! Go to Narnia as published and read for nearly 6 decades, not some moddish pseudo-historicism route, I beg of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *breathes* ...and tomorrow I'll say how I REALLY FEEL about this atrocity of enumerated publication by historicists!!!!!
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Calm down Inked!
When I was first inroduced to CoN, I read LWW. Of course I didn't know at the time there were 6 more. In buying the big book with them all in it, I read MN first. I really don't think it matters as long as you read them. It should be your choice.
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Thank you, by the way, for that wonderful demonstration of all the worst elements to be found in a fanbase. Would you like to borrow my title? It's getting awfully dusty and someone else might get better use out of it than I am these days. I'll happily leave you to your sacred cow, but throwing a tantrum because not everybody wants to do it your way is not only ridiculous, it's positively antithetical to the author's intent, and rather detrimental to the proper enjoyment of the stories. The stories indisputibly form a chronological cycle with a distinct beginning and end, and the author himself expressed a preference for reading them that way - which is, of course, the reasoning behind the order of the current publishing.
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Gee, Wayfarer, I am honored! But shouldn't you have said that over a year ago when I originally posted it?
Unfortunately, that is the only "tantrum" I have ever produced, assuming rant = tantrum. I don't think I qualify for your sig on that basis!
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Gee, how I envy you people for this debate! I wish I had all the seven to read in whatever order I choose. The thing is, here only four were published so far - The Magician's Nephew, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, The Horse And His Boy, and Prince Caspian... (Not counting the ones published sometime around '90-'92, nowhere to be seen now, of course. I bet if it weren't for the movie, they wouldn't be published again now. ) So far, I've actually seen Prince Caspian only, tucked into the corner of the fantasy-shelf in the bookstore. Really, these huge and gorgeous-looking bookstores in my town just stink when it comes to books I'm really interested in. I guess I'll have to read Prince Caspian first
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Intriguing way to read a book. I've sometimes skipped ahead to find out what happens when I'm not particularly enjoying the book but I want to know how it ends up. But your idea of the last piece of the puzzle is an interesting approach. Might try it myself! |
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Anyway, yesterday I've been to a more decent bookstore, and brought LWW, MN and um.. yes, the Horse and his boy. Already finished LWW, and I really liked it. Especially the part when Aslan plays with Susan and Lucy after his resurrection. And when one of the girls (can't remember who) calls him As, just as they call each other Lu and Ed and Su... Oh goodness, sometimes I really doubt I'm normal... But at least when (sometime in the future...) I have my own children, they'll have many books to choose from.
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OK - I finally read it! The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, that is.
I decided to read that one first, in hopes of reading it and afterwards catching the movie while it's still in theaters. It didn't take much time at all - but I poured a lot more time into it the last few days - when I read most of it (like from Friday through today I think - I probably read the last 2/5's today). Loved it, of course! And looking forward to seeing the movie now.
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val, are you trying to tell me that you've never read the lion, the witch and wardrobe before? where have you been?
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Under a ... rock?
But I DID read Mere Christianity, Screwtape Letters and A Grief Observed in my early college years (if that helps redeem me).
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a little, but not really.
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