Noghri v Chewbacca - Page 2

Helix · 04-19-2002, 12:20 PM

There was a Thrawn book not written by Timothy Zhan? What happened in Diversity Alliance? Is it in NJO? Anywho, Chewie and the Wookies are insanely better than the Noghri. The Noghri sneak around and slash people, while the Wookies actually fight.

BeardofPants · 04-19-2002, 03:56 PM

(Based on the Zahn books, as I have not/will not read the other ones...)....

GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN KICKS PROVERBIAL BUTT!!!

... oh, and so does chewie.

Strange-Looking Lurker · 04-19-2002, 05:52 PM

Thrawn rules!

TwirlingString · 04-19-2002, 07:23 PM

Thrawn LOST. Bad guys cannot rule unless they WIN (most notiable example: Artemis Fowl)

Wayfarer · 04-20-2002, 02:44 PM

What I want is to see the New Republic dig up a spare thrawn clone, and put him to work for the good guys.

The thing about thrawn was that he was almost not a villain. Borderline characters are always cool. And he lost only because it was a convinient plot device.

TwirlingString · 04-20-2002, 03:29 PM

Getting Thawn to listen and work for th bad guys would be quite a feet. How come when you clone somebody you can give them the memories too?

BeardofPants · 04-20-2002, 03:36 PM

Yes, but Thrawn wasn't completely evil. He was (as Wayfarer said... I'm agreeing with him!?), a borderline personality. He was civilised, had good taste in the arts, etc. In other words, wasn't a generic baddie. Besides, it wouldn't be Thrawn you'd be trying to convert, but rather, his clone. I'd imagine it would be easier to manage this, than to actually get Grand Admiral Thrawn to do an about face. Besides, in a time when they can clone, I'm sure they've also got mind altering techniques....

TwirlingString · 04-20-2002, 03:40 PM

Point, and you're right about him not being evil. He was just loyal. Every notice how the Jedi were the only evil ones and every one else just greedy?

Beleg Strongbow · 04-22-2002, 11:41 AM

Just clearing this up (Helix): No one besides Zahn has written a Thrawn book.

I agree that it would be awesome to see a book with Thrawn working for the Republic.

Helix · 04-22-2002, 11:43 AM

Thrawn was loyal, and he wanted order (and other good stuff) for the galaxy. Plus, he was an alien (there goes the New Order). Defenitaly better than borderline, whichever side he was on.

Beleg Strongbow · 04-22-2002, 11:49 AM

I'm agreeing with Helix here.
The Empire under Thrawn was different from the Empire under Palpatine. It was less discriminatory and just, well, better.

Beleg Strongbow · 04-22-2002, 11:51 AM

Plus, it had tactical genius. The Emperor was all for massive concentration of resources.

BeardofPants · 04-22-2002, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beleg Strongbow
Just clearing this up (Helix): No one besides Zahn has written a Thrawn book.

I agree that it would be awesome to see a book with Thrawn working for the Republic.

... No, but he turned up in a Lucasarts game somewhere.... Tie Fighter?

Beleg Strongbow · 04-23-2002, 11:39 AM

that's right!
Thrawn (see icon) developed the cloaking technology, then killed the guy who defected and stole it.

TwirlingString · 04-27-2002, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Helix
Thrawn was loyal, and he wanted order (and other good stuff) for the galaxy. Plus, he was an alien (there goes the New Order). Defenitaly better than borderline, whichever side he was on.

You're right. When they were fighting Thrawn it was really on the princapal of the thing. He didn't even have much against the Jedi. I DEFINTALY prefer him to the Vongs (used insulting term on purpose)

Beleg Strongbow · 05-06-2002, 11:50 AM

Why is Vong insulting? Does it have something to do with the abcense of Yuzzhan, as in Yun-Yuzzhan? I didn't read most of the books so I'm just wondering.

TwirlingString · 05-06-2002, 08:18 PM

Um.. I think it was saying that they were just Vong ment that they were classless, or something like that.

04-19-2002, 12:20 PM	#21
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	Diversity Alliance? There was a Thrawn book not written by Timothy Zhan? What happened in Diversity Alliance? Is it in NJO? Anywho, Chewie and the Wookies are insanely better than the Noghri. The Noghri sneak around and slash people, while the Wookies actually fight. __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

04-19-2002, 03:56 PM	#22
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	(Based on the Zahn books, as I have not/will not read the other ones...).... GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN KICKS PROVERBIAL BUTT!!! ... oh, and so does chewie. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 04-19-2002 at 03:57 PM.

04-19-2002, 05:52 PM	#23
Strange-Looking Lurker Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OK, USA Posts: 213	Thrawn rules! __________________ <hr>Check out my site: www.christianjugglers.org

04-19-2002, 07:23 PM	#24
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Thrawn LOST. Bad guys cannot rule unless they WIN (most notiable example: Artemis Fowl) __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

04-20-2002, 02:44 PM	#25
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	What I want is to see the New Republic dig up a spare thrawn clone, and put him to work for the good guys. The thing about thrawn was that he was almost not a villain. Borderline characters are always cool. And he lost only because it was a convinient plot device. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-20-2002, 03:29 PM	#26
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Getting Thawn to listen and work for th bad guys would be quite a feet. How come when you clone somebody you can give them the memories too? __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

04-20-2002, 03:36 PM	#27
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yes, but Thrawn wasn't completely evil. He was (as Wayfarer said... I'm agreeing with him!?), a borderline personality. He was civilised, had good taste in the arts, etc. In other words, wasn't a generic baddie. Besides, it wouldn't be Thrawn you'd be trying to convert, but rather, his clone. I'd imagine it would be easier to manage this, than to actually get Grand Admiral Thrawn to do an about face. Besides, in a time when they can clone, I'm sure they've also got mind altering techniques.... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-20-2002, 03:40 PM	#28
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Point, and you're right about him not being evil. He was just loyal. Every notice how the Jedi were the only evil ones and every one else just greedy? __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

04-22-2002, 11:41 AM	#29
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	Just clearing this up (Helix): No one besides Zahn has written a Thrawn book. I agree that it would be awesome to see a book with Thrawn working for the Republic. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

04-22-2002, 11:43 AM	#30
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	Thrawn was loyal, and he wanted order (and other good stuff) for the galaxy. Plus, he was an alien (there goes the New Order). Defenitaly better than borderline, whichever side he was on. __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

04-22-2002, 11:49 AM	#31
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	I'm agreeing with Helix here. The Empire under Thrawn was different from the Empire under Palpatine. It was less discriminatory and just, well, better. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

04-22-2002, 11:51 AM	#32
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	Plus, it had tactical genius. The Emperor was all for massive concentration of resources. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

04-23-2002, 11:39 AM	#34
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	that's right! Thrawn (see icon) developed the cloaking technology, then killed the guy who defected and stole it. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

05-06-2002, 11:50 AM	#36
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	Why is Vong insulting? Does it have something to do with the abcense of Yuzzhan, as in Yun-Yuzzhan? I didn't read most of the books so I'm just wondering. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

05-06-2002, 08:18 PM	#37
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Um.. I think it was saying that they were just Vong ment that they were classless, or something like that. __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

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