Favourite Valar? - Page 2

Brimvalir · 02-14-2002, 06:49 PM

Mine would have to be Tulkas - he wasnt afraid of anything and laughed in the face of Melkor himself

olsonm · 02-16-2002, 02:33 AM

I like all the Valar. They each contributed important talents to the world.

Wayfarer · 02-16-2002, 01:40 PM

In order:

Nienna
Ulmo
Orome
Manwe
Varda

It seems like those five were the only ones who didn't abandon middle earth.
Nienna emphathized for everybody there.
Ulmo's power was throught the water, and his thought was always with the free people.
Orome was really pissed when they withdrew, and used to go hunting in middle earth when the other valar were hiding away.
Manwe and Varda could see/hear almost everything that went on, and they acted (directly or indirectly) throughout history.

Radagast The Brown · 02-16-2002, 03:32 PM

but Yavanna didn't abandon Middle Earth too.

my favorites are:
Ulmo, Manwe and Tulkas because

Ulmo-he always helped the elves

Manwe-he was the smartest

Tulkas-he was the bravest and because he loughed in Melkor's face

Ñólendil · 02-17-2002, 06:29 PM

Your favorite Vala is Nienna, Shannon? You're sensitive? No way ...

Radagast, I do not agree that Tulkas was brave. In my opinion bravery is about overcoming your fears, facing them, doing things even though you are afraid, things like that. Tulkas was fearless. He was mighty and powerful and full of extroardinary ability, but I do not think he was brave.

Laurelyn · 02-17-2002, 07:47 PM

I don't have a fav Valar, actually.

Elbereth Gilthoniel · 02-19-2002, 04:21 PM

I like Varda the most becase she made the stars, and she gave hope for the elves.
her name helped for frodo in the LOTR.

***Earniel*** · 02-19-2002, 05:22 PM

Welcome to the entmoot Elbereth Gilthoniel. I see that her name has helped you too

Wayfarer · 02-19-2002, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ñólendil
Your favorite Vala is Nienna, Shannon? You're sensitive? No way ...

Lol! ]: ) Well... just a bit.

Sirithdal · 02-20-2002, 01:19 AM

I have already identified my favorite (masculine) Valar to be Orome, but I am remiss. While I admire the hunter of monters and fell beasts, I love Vana, the spouse of Orome.

"Vana, the ever young; she is the younger sister of Yavanna. All flowers spring as she passes and open if she glances upon them; and all birds sing at her coming."

Andúril · 02-25-2002, 09:15 AM

Somebody earlier said Aule. Aule sucks.

After all, he taught Sauron and Saruman. He also made dwarves. Nobody needs dwarves. Kidding.

Somebody also earlier said that the entire entourage of his "siblings" wasn't enough to take on Melkor. Actually, the rest of the Valar were concentrating their powers on keeping the world in order, limiting and fixing the damage that Melkor was doing - had they concentrated on ridding Arda of the Dark Lord they would - hey presto they did.

Henceforth Melkor, who had actually transfered most of his power into the earth and his fellow evildoers, was not really as powerful as many thought he was (although when Iluvatar first conceieved of him, he was the most powerful).

Laurelyn · 02-26-2002, 01:36 PM

Y'know, I almost wanna say Melkor just to give everybody a shock . . . but I won't.
Oh, and Welcome to the Moot, Anduril! But Aule doesn't suck, sorry buddy.

MasterMothra · 02-26-2002, 09:42 PM

it would have been cool if aule joined forces with morgoth and turned the dwarves to morgaths service.

Laurelyn · 02-26-2002, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterMothra
it would have been cool if aule joined forces with morgoth and turned the dwarves to morgaths service.

I would have said "it would have been interesting" but nobody asked me.

MasterMothra · 02-26-2002, 09:54 PM

sorry laurelyn?

anduril, if theres still doubt as to who the most powerful being is, read capt sterns sig.

Andúril · 02-27-2002, 03:11 AM

Aule doesn't suck - I was just joking...

I have no doubt that Melkor was created the mightiest being. However, I believe that after Ungoliant drank the sap of the trees and consumed the silmarils, she became the most powerful being. Melkor was continually growing weaker and weaker.

MasterMothra > what if Morgoth had created a One-Ring ?? hmmm....

Sindarion · 02-27-2002, 03:37 AM

definitly ulmo and yavanna!yavanna creates life and beauty and ulmo is just cool because he is seems such a powerful source in the book

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-27-2002, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anduril
Aule doesn't suck - I was just joking...

I have no doubt that Melkor was created the mightiest being. However, I believe that after Ungoliant drank the sap of the trees and consumed the silmarils, she became the most powerful being. Melkor was continually growing weaker and weaker.

MasterMothra > what if Morgoth had created a One-Ring ?? hmmm....

Well, Ungoliant didn't consume the Silmarils. It was actually a handful of petty jewels that Morgoth swiped from Formenos. Morgoth would not offer up the Silmarils to Ungoliant.

MasterMothra · 02-27-2002, 09:09 PM

that would be interesting indeed anduril.

remember the marvel comics series "what if.."
they need one for the sil.

sister is right, ungy had some fakes, morg would never give the sils to anyone. when feanor slammed the door on morg, morg had already taken the sils. so the references to morgoth being the mightiest being in ea, are after the raping of the sils and the destroying of the two trees.

i think that morgoth grew more powerful before his unfortunate, and totally unjustified imprisoning in the darkness. bum rap, wish johnny cocharan would have been around then.

damn, im still only a hobbit. i shall never live up to my potential.

LuthienTinuviel · 02-27-2002, 09:46 PM

varda

02-14-2002, 06:49 PM	#21
Brimvalir Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	Favorite Valar Mine would have to be Tulkas - he wasnt afraid of anything and laughed in the face of Melkor himself __________________ Swords are of no more use here ... All that is gold does not glitter nor are all those who wander lost......

02-16-2002, 02:33 AM	#22
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	I like all the Valar. They each contributed important talents to the world. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

02-16-2002, 01:40 PM	#23
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	In order: Nienna Ulmo Orome Manwe Varda It seems like those five were the only ones who didn't abandon middle earth. Nienna emphathized for everybody there. Ulmo's power was throught the water, and his thought was always with the free people. Orome was really pissed when they withdrew, and used to go hunting in middle earth when the other valar were hiding away. Manwe and Varda could see/hear almost everything that went on, and they acted (directly or indirectly) throughout history. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-16-2002, 03:32 PM	#24
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	but Yavanna didn't abandon Middle Earth too. my favorites are: Ulmo, Manwe and Tulkas because Ulmo-he always helped the elves Manwe-he was the smartest Tulkas-he was the bravest and because he loughed in Melkor's face __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-17-2002, 06:29 PM	#25
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Your favorite Vala is Nienna, Shannon? You're sensitive? No way ... Radagast, I do not agree that Tulkas was brave. In my opinion bravery is about overcoming your fears, facing them, doing things even though you are afraid, things like that. Tulkas was fearless. He was mighty and powerful and full of extroardinary ability, but I do not think he was brave. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

02-17-2002, 07:47 PM	#26
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	I don't have a fav Valar, actually. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka Last edited by Laurelyn : 02-17-2002 at 07:48 PM.

02-19-2002, 04:21 PM	#27
Elbereth Gilthoniel Enting Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: israel Posts: 80	I like Varda the most becase she made the stars, and she gave hope for the elves. her name helped for frodo in the LOTR. __________________ O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! We still remember, we who dwell In this far land beneath the trees, thy starlight on the Western Seas.

02-19-2002, 05:22 PM	#28
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Welcome to the entmoot Elbereth Gilthoniel. I see that her name has helped you too

02-20-2002, 01:19 AM	#30
Sirithdal Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 44	Two Favorites Necessary I have already identified my favorite (masculine) Valar to be Orome, but I am remiss. While I admire the hunter of monters and fell beasts, I love Vana, the spouse of Orome. "Vana, the ever young; she is the younger sister of Yavanna. All flowers spring as she passes and open if she glances upon them; and all birds sing at her coming."

02-25-2002, 09:15 AM	#31
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Aule? Somebody earlier said Aule. Aule sucks. After all, he taught Sauron and Saruman. He also made dwarves. Nobody needs dwarves. Kidding. Somebody also earlier said that the entire entourage of his "siblings" wasn't enough to take on Melkor. Actually, the rest of the Valar were concentrating their powers on keeping the world in order, limiting and fixing the damage that Melkor was doing - had they concentrated on ridding Arda of the Dark Lord they would - hey presto they did. Henceforth Melkor, who had actually transfered most of his power into the earth and his fellow evildoers, was not really as powerful as many thought he was (although when Iluvatar first conceieved of him, he was the most powerful).

02-26-2002, 01:36 PM	#32
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Y'know, I almost wanna say Melkor just to give everybody a shock . . . but I won't. Oh, and Welcome to the Moot, Anduril! But Aule doesn't suck, sorry buddy. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-26-2002, 09:42 PM	#33
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	it would have been cool if aule joined forces with morgoth and turned the dwarves to morgaths service. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon.

02-26-2002, 09:54 PM	#35
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	sorry laurelyn? anduril, if theres still doubt as to who the most powerful being is, read capt sterns sig. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon.

02-27-2002, 03:11 AM	#36
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Aule doesn't suck - I was just joking... I have no doubt that Melkor was created the mightiest being. However, I believe that after Ungoliant drank the sap of the trees and consumed the silmarils, she became the most powerful being. Melkor was continually growing weaker and weaker. MasterMothra > what if Morgoth had created a One-Ring ?? hmmm....

02-27-2002, 03:37 AM	#37
Sindarion Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ireland Posts: 4	definitly ulmo and yavanna!yavanna creates life and beauty and ulmo is just cool because he is seems such a powerful source in the book Last edited by Sindarion : 02-27-2002 at 03:39 AM.

02-27-2002, 09:09 PM	#39
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	that would be interesting indeed anduril. remember the marvel comics series "what if.." they need one for the sil. sister is right, ungy had some fakes, morg would never give the sils to anyone. when feanor slammed the door on morg, morg had already taken the sils. so the references to morgoth being the mightiest being in ea, are after the raping of the sils and the destroying of the two trees. i think that morgoth grew more powerful before his unfortunate, and totally unjustified imprisoning in the darkness. bum rap, wish johnny cocharan would have been around then. damn, im still only a hobbit. i shall never live up to my potential. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon. Last edited by MasterMothra : 02-27-2002 at 09:14 PM.

02-27-2002, 09:46 PM	#40
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	varda __________________

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