A Fellowship like no other? - Page 19

Ms. Undomial · 02-13-2003, 08:43 PM

Now that you mention it Lief that is an interesting point. Either way is fine with me, so it can be whichever Arat-Falathion prefers.

elvishfaerie3088 · 02-14-2003, 12:01 AM

uh i'm confused who's Losillewen? If you are talking about me, which i think because it sounds like it but i could be wrong of course i probably am. But uh yeah who is Lossillewen??????

Mathron · 02-14-2003, 01:58 AM

Losillewen is Ms. Undomial's character, who Aralle contacted to help the party out. She's only recently arrived.

Arat-Falathion · 02-14-2003, 06:27 AM

Hmm.. an interesting point you have there Lief... What so ever, I do not think it would fit in with my characters character if you get my meaning... He IS a lonely shadow-walker, he does not normally gather with others.

The way out of this, as I am thinking, keeping Liefs idea, is simply to add "childhood"... perhaps we were friends in the old times? Now, that would be made possible, and perhaps bind an even stronger relationship between us two, as very good friends, who hasn't seen eachother for many many years (even many ages) suddenly meet eachother again... I would have alot to explain when I awake I guess

I guess it would startle Losillewen to see me though, maybe not believing her own eyes before she actually starts talking with me

we'll see...

Arat-Falathion · 02-14-2003, 09:28 AM

Oh, and btw! I am 20 years today!! WOHOOO!!! that is two, cero! YEH!

*/me runs up at the table and clears my throat*

Happy birthday to me
Happy birthday to me
Happy biiiirthday dear Falathion
Happy birthday to me!

*cheering wildly*

In advance:
THANKS!

ahh... no longer teenager

Mathron · 02-14-2003, 09:49 AM

Hey, happy birthday man!

Arat-Falathion · 02-14-2003, 10:06 AM

*/me bows deeply*

Thanks alot!

***Tessar*** · 02-14-2003, 11:20 AM

Yay! Go you!

Lief Erikson · 02-14-2003, 01:07 PM

Happy birthday! Have a long and pleasant adulthood

.

Arat-Falathion · 02-14-2003, 01:48 PM

thank you and thank you

Ms. Undomial · 02-14-2003, 02:03 PM

Happy Birthday Arat-Falathion! May the leaves of your life never turn brown.

Aye, that could work, but would you like to notice me first, or should I come up and ask you if you are really Glimdrell of old? Or have you thought of something else?

Arat-Falathion · 02-14-2003, 02:28 PM

Read what I just wrote in the hytorax thread

Interact with it as you like

or just ignore it :d

Ms. Undomial · 02-14-2003, 02:35 PM

I will not ignore it,

but it will take me rather long to reply, nassty writers block.

Arat-Falathion · 02-15-2003, 12:55 PM

Heh

Fun to write in quenya... one really has to be creative, for the language itself isn't large enough to host all words usually needed, so one will have to make new words using the words already in there

I am no quenya expert myself eather, but I think I can give an advice or two... firstly, the use of "i" (the) is very seldomly actually used... in the "I Glimdrell en’ yerna" it is right to use it, but in the sentence: "Inye intya mme nar I ve" the "the" here should be cut out, making the sentence: "Inye intya lme nar ve"

One other thing you may want to notice, is that words like "-lme" (we) is never written alone, rather it should me melted in with the word it is pointing towards. "I believe we are the same" That would be "are". What kind of corpus did you use for your writings? In my corpus "are" translates "-ier". So you would actually have to bind all the last tree words together in a way. I always bind these so that it sounds the best pronounsing it

"ve-ier-(e)lme" would the binding become "same-are-we", put in the (e) in there, because "r" and "l" doesn't sound right after another. So "veierelme" would meen "we are the same".

So, the sentence would become "Kyern veierelme" if I were to write it... though there is no word for "believe". "Kyermë" (prayer/believer) was the closest I got, cuting out the -më at the end there, it somewhat becomes pray/believe (not totaly sure of this). I would probably have kept the -më in though, for it sounds better

"Kyermën veierelme". Kyer-n ve-ier-(e)lme = Believe-I same-are-we. Seriously though, a direct translation from english to quenya would make it all wrong, so when translating a quenyan sentance, it will sound rediculous in english

Yet, much of what is written here might be very wrong, though, it works and is more right then writing every quenyan word alone in the english writing system

A hard language to learn indeed!

Check out Ardalambion for the biggest corpus list on the net... all Arda languages included

The Sindarin (which is the language commonly used by the Silvan elves, I think) is the biggest language of them all, though I have mostly been working with Quenya...

Thanks, and hope it was interesting for some of you atleast

Arat-Falathion · 02-16-2003, 02:45 PM

Sorry to say I'm leaving for London tomorrow

Will probably be back in a week or so...

Have a good time!

- Falathion

Lief Erikson · 02-17-2003, 01:00 PM

Well, since you're not really present to make your character's responses to situations, I've done a conversation between your character and Athalt without you present. I hope you don't mind.

We look forward to your return!

Lief Erikson · 02-17-2003, 08:28 PM

Adrian, did you read my most recent post? We've just reached the Barrow Downs and everyone's awake, on its border. I'm glad to see you posting here again, though

. It's been a while since you last did.

I'm rather unsure about this shapeshifting power that you've just introduced, though. Forgive me if I say so, but it doesn't make much sense and hasn't been shown or mentioned in the character description. Not even Valar or Maiar were reported as being able to do this. Did she earn this power in a previous RPG, or are you making it start out in her? If there's a very good reason for her having it, then I'd probably be willing to accept it. But it seems like a pointless power boost to me.

I know you're not going to like reading this, and I'm sorry to have to say it. Having her a young hobbit, Frodo's sister, armed with Frodo's sword and going to Gondor makes sense. But having her a powerful shapeshifter just doesn't, to me.

***Earniel*** · 02-19-2003, 04:52 PM

Lief, I take it that Athalt and Imarwyn did not join the rest or did they?

Lief Erikson · 02-20-2003, 08:35 PM

No they didn't join the company. It's against Athalt's interests to believe them, so he's blinding himself. But he's smart enough to know that he could be wrong, so he is being careful in how he behaves toward them.

***Tessar*** · 02-21-2003, 02:38 PM

Is Assar sill in the barrows? I'm sorry, I reread the posts a few times but wasn't quite able to figure it out. I'm guessing he is still in them?

And, Sic, it wasn't a stuped post, sorry if I snapped at you and thanks for being understanding and removing it

.

Also thanks to Lief for mentioning about the deeper parts and being crushed, I hope I'm not projecting Elise as being godly, but you're better at fixing my RPG mistakes then I am anyways *poke* .

02-13-2003, 08:43 PM	#361
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	Now that you mention it Lief that is an interesting point. Either way is fine with me, so it can be whichever Arat-Falathion prefers. __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune

02-14-2003, 12:01 AM	#362
elvishfaerie3088 Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NO where and every where! Posts: 413	uh i'm confused who's Losillewen? If you are talking about me, which i think because it sounds like it but i could be wrong of course i probably am. But uh yeah who is Lossillewen?????? __________________ "This is the day you will all remember that you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow" Elizabeth: "Will!" Will: "Elizabeth!" Jack: "Monkey!" "It's captain Jack Sparrow, captain..." "If you were waiting for the opportune moment that was it." Red coat, "Impersonating a judge." Jack: (Oh, ya that was fun look on his face) "Do us a favour...i know it's hard...but stay here and try not to do...anything...stupid." "Yes...but why is the rum gone?!" "WELL IT BLOODY IS NOW!" ~~Elvish Faerie~~

02-14-2003, 01:58 AM	#363
Mathron Hobbit-Huorn RPG Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 695	Losillewen is Ms. Undomial's character, who Aralle contacted to help the party out. She's only recently arrived. __________________ Through Truth, Power.

02-14-2003, 06:27 AM	#364
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Hmm.. an interesting point you have there Lief... What so ever, I do not think it would fit in with my characters character if you get my meaning... He IS a lonely shadow-walker, he does not normally gather with others. The way out of this, as I am thinking, keeping Liefs idea, is simply to add "childhood"... perhaps we were friends in the old times? Now, that would be made possible, and perhaps bind an even stronger relationship between us two, as very good friends, who hasn't seen eachother for many many years (even many ages) suddenly meet eachother again... I would have alot to explain when I awake I guess I guess it would startle Losillewen to see me though, maybe not believing her own eyes before she actually starts talking with me we'll see... __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-14-2003, 09:28 AM	#365
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Oh, and btw! I am 20 years today!! WOHOOO!!! that is two, cero! YEH! /me runs up at the table and clears my throat Happy birthday to me Happy birthday to me Happy biiiirthday dear Falathion Happy birthday to me! cheering wildly In advance: THANKS! ahh... no longer teenager __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-14-2003, 09:49 AM	#366
Mathron Hobbit-Huorn RPG Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 695	Hey, happy birthday man! __________________ Through Truth, Power.

02-14-2003, 10:06 AM	#367
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	/me bows deeply Thanks alot! __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-14-2003, 11:20 AM	#368
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Yay! Go you!

02-14-2003, 01:07 PM	#369
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Happy birthday! Have a long and pleasant adulthood .

02-14-2003, 01:48 PM	#370
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	thank you and thank you __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-14-2003, 02:03 PM	#371
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	Happy Birthday Arat-Falathion! May the leaves of your life never turn brown. Aye, that could work, but would you like to notice me first, or should I come up and ask you if you are really Glimdrell of old? Or have you thought of something else? __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune

02-14-2003, 02:28 PM	#372
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Read what I just wrote in the hytorax thread Interact with it as you like or just ignore it :d __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-14-2003, 02:35 PM	#373
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	I will not ignore it, but it will take me rather long to reply, nassty writers block. __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune

02-15-2003, 12:55 PM	#374
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Heh Fun to write in quenya... one really has to be creative, for the language itself isn't large enough to host all words usually needed, so one will have to make new words using the words already in there I am no quenya expert myself eather, but I think I can give an advice or two... firstly, the use of "i" (the) is very seldomly actually used... in the "I Glimdrell en’ yerna" it is right to use it, but in the sentence: "Inye intya mme nar I ve" the "the" here should be cut out, making the sentence: "Inye intya lme nar ve" One other thing you may want to notice, is that words like "-lme" (we) is never written alone, rather it should me melted in with the word it is pointing towards. "I believe we are the same" That would be "are". What kind of corpus did you use for your writings? In my corpus "are" translates "-ier". So you would actually have to bind all the last tree words together in a way. I always bind these so that it sounds the best pronounsing it "ve-ier-(e)lme" would the binding become "same-are-we", put in the (e) in there, because "r" and "l" doesn't sound right after another. So "veierelme" would meen "we are the same". So, the sentence would become "Kyern veierelme" if I were to write it... though there is no word for "believe". "Kyermë" (prayer/believer) was the closest I got, cuting out the -më at the end there, it somewhat becomes pray/believe (not totaly sure of this). I would probably have kept the -më in though, for it sounds better "Kyermën veierelme". Kyer-n ve-ier-(e)lme = Believe-I same-are-we. Seriously though, a direct translation from english to quenya would make it all wrong, so when translating a quenyan sentance, it will sound rediculous in english Yet, much of what is written here might be very wrong, though, it works and is more right then writing every quenyan word alone in the english writing system A hard language to learn indeed! Check out Ardalambion for the biggest corpus list on the net... all Arda languages included The Sindarin (which is the language commonly used by the Silvan elves, I think) is the biggest language of them all, though I have mostly been working with Quenya... Thanks, and hope it was interesting for some of you atleast __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players. Last edited by Arat-Falathion : 02-15-2003 at 01:09 PM.

02-16-2003, 02:45 PM	#375
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Sorry to say I'm leaving for London tomorrow Will probably be back in a week or so... Have a good time! - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

02-17-2003, 01:00 PM	#376
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Well, since you're not really present to make your character's responses to situations, I've done a conversation between your character and Athalt without you present. I hope you don't mind. We look forward to your return!

02-17-2003, 08:28 PM	#377
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Adrian, did you read my most recent post? We've just reached the Barrow Downs and everyone's awake, on its border. I'm glad to see you posting here again, though . It's been a while since you last did. I'm rather unsure about this shapeshifting power that you've just introduced, though. Forgive me if I say so, but it doesn't make much sense and hasn't been shown or mentioned in the character description. Not even Valar or Maiar were reported as being able to do this. Did she earn this power in a previous RPG, or are you making it start out in her? If there's a very good reason for her having it, then I'd probably be willing to accept it. But it seems like a pointless power boost to me. I know you're not going to like reading this, and I'm sorry to have to say it. Having her a young hobbit, Frodo's sister, armed with Frodo's sword and going to Gondor makes sense. But having her a powerful shapeshifter just doesn't, to me.

02-19-2003, 04:52 PM	#378
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Lief, I take it that Athalt and Imarwyn did not join the rest or did they? __________________ We are not things.

02-20-2003, 08:35 PM	#379
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	No they didn't join the company. It's against Athalt's interests to believe them, so he's blinding himself. But he's smart enough to know that he could be wrong, so he is being careful in how he behaves toward them.

02-21-2003, 02:38 PM	#380
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Is Assar sill in the barrows? I'm sorry, I reread the posts a few times but wasn't quite able to figure it out. I'm guessing he is still in them? And, Sic, it wasn't a stuped post, sorry if I snapped at you and thanks for being understanding and removing it . Also thanks to Lief for mentioning about the deeper parts and being crushed, I hope I'm not projecting Elise as being godly, but you're better at fixing my RPG mistakes then I am anyways poke .

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