Eowyn or Arwen? - Page 16

TinuvielChild · 09-25-2002, 11:30 PM

You know what? All my previous posts on this thread were made under the influence of defiance of a certain person at whom I was extremely annoyed, who was in favor of Eowyn. Naturally, I had to pick Arwen, just to be contrary. Guess what? I take all those back. I'm strongly in favor of Eowyn, Warrior Princess!

TinuvielChild · 09-25-2002, 11:33 PM

Yeah! I just passed FrodoFriend's post count! I am now 3rd from the bottom of the 2nd page of "Top 10 Posters" on the "Members" page!!! Go me!

durin's bane · 09-30-2002, 09:05 PM

i like eowyn. she's got a sword and pretty golden hair like mine! plus her name starts with E which is my favourite letter and she killed the witch king, who sounds pretty scary. she's really brave.

Radagast The Brown · 10-01-2002, 02:42 PM

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originally posted by TC
Yeah! I just passed FrodoFriend's post count! I am now 3rd from the bottom of the 2nd page of "Top 10 Posters" on the "Members" page!!! Go me!

What Are You Talking About????

**Nurvingiel** · 10-02-2002, 12:29 AM

This thread kind of sucks now... what were we talking about?

Arwen and Eowyn are very different but both cool in their own respective ways. I forget what I said the first time, I believe I gave Arwen a slight edge. I still do, she's so mysterious and cool!

Plus I hated the scene where Eowyn breaks down and cries and begs Aragorn not to go through Dunharrow. But that's because I thought Eowyn was tougher than that.

Overall it is pretty even.

**Nurvingiel** · 10-02-2002, 01:16 AM

An amazing pic! Click here!

http://www.via.ecp.fr/~jm/musee/howe/eow.jpg

This is the website where it's from...

http://www.via.ecp.fr/~jm/musee/howe.html

There's a lot of great pictures here! Hope you speak French

Le Francais est excéllent!

Sicirus · 10-02-2002, 06:31 PM

Those are beautiful paintings!
Thats a freat site!

Linarryl · 10-19-2002, 09:11 AM

I'd say Eowyn. Eowyn is very brave and she is very noble. Arwen is just too prissy like.

Arwen: Good bye Aragorn my love! *weeps*
Eowyn: I will fight to my death if I must!
*everyone shouts 'how brave!'*

**Nurvingiel** · 10-26-2002, 05:15 PM

I agree Eowyn is brave and noble, but Arwen is not prissy!

Eliminate movie-Arwen (who's really not that bad) from your mind, as she does not belong in this forum.

Name one quote, action, incident from the book where Arwen is prissy!

Ha! You can't because she's hardly in the book at all!

It's not Arwen's fault Tolkein thought of her later and added her after he wrote the main plot!

Arwen rules.

Cheers!

**Nurvingiel** · 10-26-2002, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Linarryl

Arwen: Good bye Aragorn my love! *weeps*
Eowyn: I will fight to my death if I must!
*everyone shouts 'how brave!'* [/B]

These aren't quotes from the book, as far as I know.

And Eowyn cried in the book when Aragorn went through the Paths of the Dead, but that doesn't make her prissy.

BeardofPants · 10-26-2002, 07:03 PM

We must remember that Arwen didn't go rampaging around the countryside for a very good reason -- remember what happened to her mother. Also: remember Arwen's lineage... she comes from very powerful stock. I doubt that she would be 'prissy'.

**Nurvingiel** · 10-27-2002, 12:22 AM

I don't think Arwen is better than Eowyn, I like them both for different reasons.

Arwen is misunderstood for two reasons.[list=1][*]Movie-Arwen really doesn't exist in the book.[*]Her character is mysterious and doesn't have a lot of dialogue.[/list=1]

Eowyn and Arwen are compared to each other, or pitted against each other, because they both loved Aragorn.

Eowyn moved on, and ended up marrying Faramir

so we should move on too.

durin's bane · 10-27-2002, 10:36 AM

Arwen didn't slay the Witch-king. Eowyn did. Arwen became Queen of Gondor. Eowyn didn't. Two points of what makes Arwen great, and Eowyn great. But personally, I still prefer Eowyn.

BeardofPants · 10-27-2002, 02:22 PM

But it is doubtful that Eowyn would have been able to if it hadn't been for Merry's unknitting of the spells that bound him, and made him impervious to normal blades.

durin's bane · 10-27-2002, 02:24 PM

Yeah, but she still slayed him.

I've got to read more carefully...

BeardofPants · 10-27-2002, 02:31 PM

Not really. She may have dealt the death blow, but it was certainly with the help of Merry, who not only broke the spells, but also distracted the witchking so that Eowyn COULD deal the death blow. She had help; they both contributed to his death.

durin's bane · 10-27-2002, 02:42 PM

Though she had help, she slayed him. Eowyn and Merry both killed it together. I'll read more carefully next time.

**Nurvingiel** · 10-27-2002, 08:43 PM

Are we pretty much agreed that Eowyn dealt the death blow, but that wouldn't have been possible without the help of Merry's knee stabbing action?

Arathorn · 10-27-2002, 10:00 PM

It was a team effort really. I was there. Then I woke up.

Elessar · 10-28-2002, 02:42 PM

well... everyone's going to beat me up over this one- but i'm am going to say arwen!!!

She is brave, dutifull, kind- forsaking the chance to live with her people in the havens- she willingly lives with her husband- and stands with him to his death.

Yes, Eowyn is brave- but in a different way- i consider her manner to be a bit suicidal!!! Though- she is a feminist- and that is everything that i am. Arwen's character seems to have more depth, more knowledge and understanding.

I am sorry- i do just love arwen (though not in a lesbian way).

09-25-2002, 11:30 PM	#301
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	You know what? All my previous posts on this thread were made under the influence of defiance of a certain person at whom I was extremely annoyed, who was in favor of Eowyn. Naturally, I had to pick Arwen, just to be contrary. Guess what? I take all those back. I'm strongly in favor of Eowyn, Warrior Princess! __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

09-25-2002, 11:33 PM	#302
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Yeah! I just passed FrodoFriend's post count! I am now 3rd from the bottom of the 2nd page of "Top 10 Posters" on the "Members" page!!! Go me! __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

09-30-2002, 09:05 PM	#303
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	i like eowyn. she's got a sword and pretty golden hair like mine! plus her name starts with E which is my favourite letter and she killed the witch king, who sounds pretty scary. she's really brave. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

10-02-2002, 12:29 AM	#305
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	um... This thread kind of sucks now... what were we talking about? Arwen and Eowyn are very different but both cool in their own respective ways. I forget what I said the first time, I believe I gave Arwen a slight edge. I still do, she's so mysterious and cool! Plus I hated the scene where Eowyn breaks down and cries and begs Aragorn not to go through Dunharrow. But that's because I thought Eowyn was tougher than that. Overall it is pretty even.

10-02-2002, 01:16 AM	#306
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	Cool Picture of Eowyn An amazing pic! Click here! http://www.via.ecp.fr/~jm/musee/howe/eow.jpg This is the website where it's from... http://www.via.ecp.fr/~jm/musee/howe.html There's a lot of great pictures here! Hope you speak French Le Francais est excéllent!

10-02-2002, 06:31 PM	#307
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	Those are beautiful paintings! Thats a freat site! __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

10-19-2002, 09:11 AM	#308
Linarryl Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 160	I'd say Eowyn. Eowyn is very brave and she is very noble. Arwen is just too prissy like. Arwen: Good bye Aragorn my love! weeps Eowyn: I will fight to my death if I must! everyone shouts 'how brave!'

10-26-2002, 05:15 PM	#309
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	I agree Eowyn is brave and noble, but Arwen is not prissy! Eliminate movie-Arwen (who's really not that bad) from your mind, as she does not belong in this forum. Name one quote, action, incident from the book where Arwen is prissy! Ha! You can't because she's hardly in the book at all! It's not Arwen's fault Tolkein thought of her later and added her after he wrote the main plot! Arwen rules. Cheers!

10-26-2002, 07:03 PM	#311
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	We must remember that Arwen didn't go rampaging around the countryside for a very good reason -- remember what happened to her mother. Also: remember Arwen's lineage... she comes from very powerful stock. I doubt that she would be 'prissy'. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-27-2002, 12:22 AM	#312
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	I don't think Arwen is better than Eowyn, I like them both for different reasons. Arwen is misunderstood for two reasons.[list=1][]Movie-Arwen really doesn't exist in the book.[]Her character is mysterious and doesn't have a lot of dialogue.[/list=1] Eowyn and Arwen are compared to each other, or pitted against each other, because they both loved Aragorn. Eowyn moved on, and ended up marrying Faramir so we should move on too.

10-27-2002, 10:36 AM	#313
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Arwen didn't slay the Witch-king. Eowyn did. Arwen became Queen of Gondor. Eowyn didn't. Two points of what makes Arwen great, and Eowyn great. But personally, I still prefer Eowyn. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

10-27-2002, 02:22 PM	#314
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	But it is doubtful that Eowyn would have been able to if it hadn't been for Merry's unknitting of the spells that bound him, and made him impervious to normal blades. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-27-2002, 02:24 PM	#315
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Yeah, but she still slayed him. I've got to read more carefully... __________________ Yada, yada, yada

10-27-2002, 02:31 PM	#316
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Not really. She may have dealt the death blow, but it was certainly with the help of Merry, who not only broke the spells, but also distracted the witchking so that Eowyn COULD deal the death blow. She had help; they both contributed to his death. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-27-2002, 02:42 PM	#317
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Though she had help, she slayed him. Eowyn and Merry both killed it together. I'll read more carefully next time. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

10-27-2002, 08:43 PM	#318
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	Are we pretty much agreed that Eowyn dealt the death blow, but that wouldn't have been possible without the help of Merry's knee stabbing action?

10-27-2002, 10:00 PM	#319
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	It was a team effort really. I was there. Then I woke up. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

10-28-2002, 02:42 PM	#320
Elessar Sapling Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: I live in the citadel, Minas Tirith, Gondor, Middle Earth. Posts: 5	well... everyone's going to beat me up over this one- but i'm am going to say arwen!!! She is brave, dutifull, kind- forsaking the chance to live with her people in the havens- she willingly lives with her husband- and stands with him to his death. Yes, Eowyn is brave- but in a different way- i consider her manner to be a bit suicidal!!! Though- she is a feminist- and that is everything that i am. Arwen's character seems to have more depth, more knowledge and understanding. I am sorry- i do just love arwen (though not in a lesbian way). __________________ namarie... ~Elessarxxx~ ~you drink to much, it makes me drink just the same~

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