What All Was Wrong with PJ's LOTR

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

So who was left to defend Lorien again?

The second unit.

[Curufin]

Oh, them.

[Jon S.]

Most droll, DRP. I'll edit the rest out, on second thought, I don't mind being the lone movie lover.

[Curufin]

for canon-based support for Elvish telepathic capabilities:

And the Ósanwe-kenta.

And if they came from Rivendell why in holy hippos was Haldir - a March warden of Lothlórien there?

And it still doesn't change the question, just the place.

Who's defending Rivendell?

EDIT: Ha, Jon, I'm faster than you.

[Jon S.]

But as the Good Rats put in in the song Tasty, "Speed ain't nothing w/o class."

P.S. I'm joking back, really.

[Curufin]

And as for your (erased) post () I have no trouble with Elrond and Galadriel communicating telepathically. Tolkien goes into depth about the 'telepathic' capabilities of the Eldar (and Valar) in the Ósanwe-kenta.

The problem is: sending the elves in the first place. And, as DPR says (making a good point) - who's left to defend Lothlórien/Rivendell (wherever they came from? )

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Curufin

And the Ósanwe-kenta.

And if they came from Rivendell why in holy hippos was Haldir - a March warden of Lothlórien there?

He went down for a high-up conference, and came as rep of his branch.

The elven group was a sort of UN business with elves from many areas.

They just sent for archers, the home territories were guarded by big-time magic and spearmen.

He was supervising archers doing community service.

It was his scout troop.


How many do you want?

I should write a quiz, darnit. Except most of the people who'd understand it are too hidebound to laugh.

[Curufin]

*is not hidebound*

*laughs*

I especially like the UN and the Scouts.

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

I liked the Scout Troop one.

If they had blue hats and just one arrow apiece, the UN analogy would have fit.

[Jon S.]

If nothing else, this thread is doing a fine job of illustrating the differences between blockbuster movie directors and internet forum movie critics.

As Curufin has noted (REPEATEDLY!!! ), in my not-quickly-enough edited post, at first, I referred to the "Elves from Rivendell." Obviously, they were from Lothlorien. The reason I typed Rivendell is due to how the movie Haldir opened his remarks:

"I bring word from Lord Elrond of Rivendell. An Alliance once existed between Elves and Men. Long ago we fought and died together. We come to honor that allegiance."

Great line - just awesome (unless you're an internet forum movie critic ).

[Jon S.]

Originally Posted by Curufin

And as for your (erased) post () I have no trouble with Elrond and Galadriel communicating telepathically. Tolkien goes into depth about the 'telepathic' capabilities of the Eldar (and Valar) in the Ósanwe-kenta.

Galadriel to Elrond (telepathically):

"The power of the enemy is growing. Sauron will use his puppet Saruman to destroy the people of Rohan. Isengard has been unleashed. The Eye of Sauron now turns to Gondor, the last free kingdom of men. His war on this country will come swiftly. He senses the Ring is close. The strength of the Ringbearer is failing. In his heart, Frodo begins to understand. The quest will claim his life. You know this. You have foreseen it. It is the risk we all took. In the gathering dark, the will of the Ring grows strong. It works hard now to find its way back into the hands of men. Men, who are so easily seduced by its power. The young captain of Gondor has but to extend his hand, take the Ring for his own and the world will fall. It is close now, so close to achieving its goal. For Sauron will have dominion over all life on this Earth, even unto the ending of the world. The time of the elves is over. Do we leave Middle-Earth to its fate? Do we let them stand alone?"

NO NO NO! First we help, then we leave. Way to go, Gal! :dudette:

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Jon S.

If nothing else, this thread is doing a fine job of illustrating the differences between blockbuster movie directors and internet forum movie critics.

Otherwise known as "the heathen" and 'the elect' "

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

Gee, The Ring is stupid. It would rather be taken from Frodo by Boromir than be brought home to Mordor where it could be taken back by Sauron.

Oft evil will shall evil mar, I guess.

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

Gee, The Ring is stupid. It would rather be taken from Frodo by Boromir than be brought home to Mordor where it could be taken back by Sauron.

It's like monologuing. Evil is easily distracted by the opportunity to gain another minion.

Oft evil will shall evil mar, I guess.

Apt, very apt.

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

I liked the Scout Troop one.

If they had blue hats and just one arrow apiece, the UN analogy would have fit.

like this?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...z/haldirun.jpg

[Curufin]

Otherwise known as "the heathen" and 'the elect'

I prefer 'Noldor' to 'elect' thank you very much.

And I didn't come here to be a movie critic. I just can't help it.

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

I, for one, fled west in part to escape the darkness of certain movie critics.

[Curufin]

Ditto with you there, DPR.

And thankfully, the worst of the Nazgúl haven't found us here.

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

Yeah, we have the sweet Nazgul here.

[Curufin]

*pats Gordis on head*

Nice, friendly Nazgúl.

Of course, as I apparently shine like a beacon from the Wraith-world, let's hope I'm not followed.