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Old 11-25-2003, 03:25 PM   #241
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Was it Meriadoc The Magnificent?
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 11-25-2003, 05:46 PM   #242
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Was it Meriadoc The Magnificent?
That's the one!
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Old 11-25-2003, 06:07 PM   #243
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lol, ok here's mine:


How old were Arwen and Aragorn when they met for the first?
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 11-25-2003, 06:09 PM   #244
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How old were Arwen and Aragorn when they met for the first?
OK, lessee...

Aragorn, 20
Arwen, 2710
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Old 11-25-2003, 06:12 PM   #245
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Damn that was quick! lol

You're right
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 11-25-2003, 08:03 PM   #246
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And you must keep your ring of invisibility on around here, huh? Never on, always posting...

Say... noticed that the Elendilmir is called "The Star of Elendil" in App. A - and it does say Aragorn gave Sam "The Star of the Dunedain" in App. B... maybe they WERE two different things...? Note also in the RotK chapter "Passing of the Grey Company"(all rise please): 'A little apart the Rangers sat,... ...nor did (they) bear any badge or token, save only that each cloak was pinned upon the left shoulder by a brooch of silver shaped like
a rayed star. So... I still think THAT could be the SotD, rather than the Elendilmir being the SotD...

Anyway - guess I owe a question in addition to all the remarks:

Who was the first Chieftain of the Dunedain?
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:35 PM   #247
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Who was the first Chieftain of the Dunedain?
Uh, Arvedui's son?
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:36 PM   #248
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Uh, Arvedui's son?
correct so far...
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:40 PM   #249
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okay, I looked it up...it is Aranarth.
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:46 PM   #250
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okay, I looked it up...it is Aranarth.
Glad you did... gotta go away for an extended Thanksgiving weekend - and won't have access to my comp-mooter!

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Old 11-25-2003, 08:46 PM   #251
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What is the supposed source for the section on Durin's Folk?

editors note: Have a nice holiday Valandil. Why not post a guess for the "heart of one thousand faces" riddle before you go?

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Old 11-25-2003, 08:47 PM   #252
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What is the supposed source for the section on Durin's Folk?
Oh! I know this one, but I don't wanna answer!!!
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Old 11-25-2003, 11:32 PM   #253
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I have no idea. But just for fun I will guess the Book of Mazarbul.
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Old 11-26-2003, 12:58 AM   #254
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I have no idea. But just for fun I will guess the Book of Mazarbul.
I think that's the book that Balin had in Moria...

As for Keith's question, I know that there was much said of the Dwarves through both the Eldar and the Dwarves themselves, but I think a large portion of it comes from the Red Book...?
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:18 AM   #255
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Perhaps much of the original source material found its way into the Red Book, but that is another discussion. The appendix specifically lists the source and it is not the Red Book or the Mazarbul book.
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:40 AM   #256
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:43 AM   #257
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Gimli is right! It is stated in the very first opening paragraph of the appendices. Nicely done Earniel!
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:23 PM   #258
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Thanks. Wait, is it my turn now to ask a question? If so, I'll have to pass up this occasion, I don't have my books here. Anyone else can have a go.
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:17 PM   #259
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I'll volunteer a question:

Where did Thrain II die?
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:27 PM   #260
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