Journeys discussion thread

[Earniel]

But of a death wish, eh?

Well, it's not like he died and came back again or anything, is it?

[Varnafindë]

He fell down a mountainside once, closely accompanied by a balrog.
Now he's climbing up one, alone.
Symbolic?

[Willow Oran]

More foolhardy than symbolic.

It did occur to me yesterday that if one really wanted to give Glor a death wish, they could kill him off a second time during the war in Eriador/last alliance and then have him re-re-embodied and returning again as Gandalf's companion in the third age. All the dates are accurate!

But that would be cruelty to fictional characters. My Glor just has a shoulder demon that sounds like Aredhel at her most persuasively reckless.

[Varnafindë]

Do we need a Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Fictional Characters?

I could make one on LiveJournal

Edit:
It might not get many members!

Edit 2:
I think I should make it the Society for the Prevention of Unnecessary Cruelty to Fictional Characters - then it could discuss the degree of necessity in each case

[Willow Oran]

I have a shirt for the 'Society for the Protection of Honey Dipped Elves'... but the front reads 'Glorfindel is my House-Elf', so it might not count.

[Varnafindë]

I have introduced Kemmótar - he just needed a name, and I went to Ardalambion to get him one from Now We Have All Got Elvish Names

GEORGE: "Earth-worker", from Greek gaia, ge "earth" + the base of ergon "work". Kemen is Quenya for "earth" (KEM), but what is "worker"? Mól "slave, thrall" (MÔ) seems to be too harsh a word. However, we can add an agentive suffix to the verb móta- "labour, toil" given under the same stem. The suffix -r is used on another verb ending in -ta (envinyatar "renewer" being derived from the verb *envinyata- "renew" - see Vinyar Tengwar #34 p. 11). Combining kemen "earth" and *mótar "worker" we get Kememmótar (with the same assimilation of nm to mm as we observe in elen + makil = Elemmakil *"Star-sword" in UT:45). Kememmótar would probably become Kemmótar by haplology.

Btw, Ainon got his name from the same site some years ago ...

[Varnafindë]

Willow and I are working on a new post together
Expect it to still take some days, but we're getting there.

[Earniel]

Take your time.

Looking forward to it!

[Willow Oran]

My sense of direction goes twisty every time I try to visualize Rivendell's geography, which is why I've been trying to describe it more precisely. Hopefully working?

The plan is to have our characters find yours... assuming we don't manage to get our characters lost themselves. Experienced elves though they may be, I can see it happening.

[Earniel]

There isn't that much information on the direct surroundings of Rivendell, and coupled with the fact that it's very effectively hidden for centuries, yeah, twisty seems appropriate.

Our Elves aren't lost. They know where they are, it's just Rivendell that's lost, not them! But they'd like to be found nevertheless.

It would be funny though, to have your characters find ours and confess: "I know where Rivendell is! Just... not right now at the moment..."

[Willow Oran]

Not much information is a bit of an understatement! I went to check the map in the front of my copy of FotR and found the area where Rivendell was supposed to be in the blank space at the inside margins. Most suspicious...

[Varnafindë]

*feels very guilty*

*considers continuing her discussion with Willow*

*decides she will have to do something about it in the morning*

[Willow Oran]

*is watching*

*is waiting*

*will look for a message tomorrow*

[Earniel]

*is happy*

*will be patient a little longer*

[Willow Oran]

I sent our draft to your e-mail, Varna, since it was a little long for PM.

This one should set up everyone meeting enough for you and Rian to jump back in, Earn.

[Varnafindë]

I was reading the beginning of this thread the other day, and had to chuckle a little when we discussed how many posts would be needed before we could all meet up. I think we mentioned three or four.

Well, another tale that grew in the telling.
Which is great

I sometimes forget that a PM can only handle so many words. Yes, e-mail it is.
*goes to read her e-mail*

[Earniel]

Originally Posted by Willow Oran

This one should set up everyone meeting enough for you and Rian to jump back in, Earn.

Great!

Originally Posted by Varnafindë

I was reading the beginning of this thread the other day, and had to chuckle a little when we discussed how many posts would be needed before we could all meet up. I think we mentioned three or four.

Heheh very optimistic of us. I wonder if we could have forseen that three years later we still haven't met up!

But when a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well. That goes for story-telling too, it seems.

[Varnafindë]

Originally Posted by Eärniel

But when a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well. That goes for story-telling too, it seems.

Oh yes - the story would have been poorer without all those side-events we've explored. And we've built a better basis for the next part of the story this way

[Earniel]

True, I very much liked the scenes we did at Tom's cottage. And I quite enjoyed hearing the stories the Rivendell-characters told the children there to entertain them.

[Varnafindë]

I've put up my story (beta-read by Willow) about Rameldir's parents on the Ice on fanfiction.net.
One of my readers have put it among her favorites - that's a first for any of my stories

We've PMed a little about it, and I told her that it was part of an RPG - and she will now join me on a different board where I'm still playing the first Barufiniel story.
Hopefully she will also turn up here for RPing, when we've got the other one started - she likes First Age especially

She hasn't RPed much, but she's written a lot of fanfiction.