The Wheel of Time - Page 11

RosieCotton · 01-31-2003, 01:56 PM

For information about Wheel of Time go to wotmainia.com or there is another site that is rather good. It might be dragonmount.com, but I'm not sure.

Mat doesn't exactley become more mature. He just doesn't have much of a chance to have his fun. But he still complains about it.

The books are moving a little slow at the moment, but I think the purpose of Book 10 was to set things up for Book 11, which, unless the series is going to have 20 books, should be quite eventful.

Rosie

elendili · 02-03-2003, 06:03 AM

I though book 10 left a lot of loose ends that will take ages to be explained

Is it just me or is the WOT set after present day coz they talk about helicopters and lifts (elevators)?

Perrin irritates me esp. since Faile got kidnaped she was the only interesting part of his scenes esp. when shes argueing with Berelain

Lalaith_Elf · 02-03-2003, 01:29 PM

i've started to read it but i've been busy so i haven't got very far. also i read about five books at one time so it takes me a while

RosieCotton · 02-06-2003, 04:09 PM

I really don't know how everything is going to be wrapped up in two books, as they are supposed to be. There are SO many plot lines all going on at once, it would seem at least four or so books would be needed.

I really don't know when Wheel of Time is set. I always thought it was a little before our time (they talk about people inventing the car at Rand's university in Cairhien) but in a parallel world like the one Hurin, Rand, Loial, and "Selene" were in in The Great Hunt.

Both Perrin and Rand have annoyed me recently too. I never particularly like Faile, but I wanted her back so Perrin will FINALLY stop complaining.

Wayfarer, why did you hate everything besides Mat and Perrin?

Rosie

ArwenEvenstar · 02-09-2003, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by elendili
Is it just me or is the WOT set after present day coz they talk about helicopters and lifts (elevators)?

i think it does because in the eye of the world the foreward it talks about stuff that really seemed modern age, but i think somebody really messed the world over and everything got restarted around 500 ad? correct me if u think im wrong!

RosieCotton · 02-13-2003, 04:10 PM

Thats a good point, perhaps the Wheel of Time is the distant future. I never thought about it that way. It's sort of interesting to think about. Maybe I can become a Hero of the Horn somehow and come back then to help out Mat, Perrin, Rand and the rest.

Rosie

RosieCotton · 02-27-2003, 09:26 AM

I'm bringing this thread back!

Do you think Moiraine will ever come back? I think that will be a big part of Book 11, because in an earlier Book, Min says it was her onnly vision that has ever been wrong. Then, when Mat plays Snakes and Foxes with Olver (the Snakes and the Foxes are the people in the Aelfinn and Eelfinn) he says:

Quote:

Courage to Strengthen,
Fire to blind,
Music to dazzle,
Iron to bind.

I think that means Mat (fire:fireworks), Thom (music:gleeman), Perrin (iron:blacksmith) and almost any other character for courage will go to rescue her. Also, no iron, fire, or music is allowed to be taken into either land, and we saw when Mat entered both doorways in The Stone of Tear and Rhuidean.

What do you think?

Rosie

Amandil · 02-28-2003, 04:24 AM

Ugh, these books suck. Why did I read this thread?

elendili · 02-28-2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Ugh, these books suck. Why did I read this thread?

How childish or was there a real reason that you said that except to irritate WOT fans? Dumbass

What's your fav. book?? I like The Dragon Reborn and The Lord of Chaos

When do you think they're going to kill off another Forsaken off?? Although you don't actually know the death toll from Winter's heart. Who do u think got killed??

Who are Oran'gar and Asan'gar?? This is really irritating me but i think they could be Balthamel and Aginor??

I hope they bring Moirianne back she was a good source of sarcastic remarks like Cadsuane

FrodoFriend · 02-28-2003, 08:46 AM

When is the next book coming out?

About the time problem:

In The Wheel of Time, time is, well, a wheel. The Ages come and go, around and around and around and around . . . So it takes place in both the future and the past, so to speak.

If you pay very close attention, you can find references to modern-day occurrences. For example:

The Eye of the World - check out what Thom says when he first appears in the Two Rivers. Remember how he jumps up on a rock and starts juggling? Read what he says! He's talking about telling ancient stories from before the Age of Legends. Examples of these stories are that of Terez (or something like that) the fabulous mother of Ind, some guy with a name like Lenn going to the moon on an eagle, and some other things I forgot. Compare these two examples to the following: Mother Teresa of India, John Glenn going to the moon in the Eagle . Thom is talking about things from our time!

So I think WOT takes place two "ages" in the future. After our time comes the Age of Legends, when magic and technology are both at their height, then WOT. Things just go in circles with slight differences.

I wonder how many ages there are?

Amandil · 03-01-2003, 05:09 AM

Quote:

How childish or was there a real reason that you said that except to irritate WOT fans? Dumbass

I love getting flamed! I said it to irritate WOT fans, naturally. Enjoy!

ArwenEvenstar · 03-02-2003, 04:26 PM

im only on From the Two Rivers, and im getting To The Blight. How many books is there actually?

FrodoFriend · 03-03-2003, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
im only on From the Two Rivers, and im getting To The Blight. How many books is there actually?

So far, nine.

RosieCotton · 03-04-2003, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrodoFriend
When is the next book coming out?

About the time problem:

In The Wheel of Time, time is, well, a wheel. The Ages come and go, around and around and around and around . . . So it takes place in both the future and the past, so to speak.

If you pay very close attention, you can find references to modern-day occurrences. For example:

The Eye of the World - check out what Thom says when he first appears in the Two Rivers. Remember how he jumps up on a rock and starts juggling? Read what he says! He's talking about telling ancient stories from before the Age of Legends. Examples of these stories are that of Terez (or something like that) the fabulous mother of Ind, some guy with a name like Lenn going to the moon on an eagle, and some other things I forgot. Compare these two examples to the following: Mother Teresa of India, John Glenn going to the moon in the Eagle . Thom is talking about things from our time!

So I think WOT takes place two "ages" in the future. After our time comes the Age of Legends, when magic and technology are both at their height, then WOT. Things just go in circles with slight differences.

I wonder how many ages there are?

Wow, I never noticed that. I did notice that at one point that at Rand's University in Cairhien they are planning automobiles and hot air balloons. And Mat's probably going to invent gunpowder soon. That would make you think it is all in the past, but then with what you said, FrodoFriend, you must be right. Past and Present!

Elendili, I think my favorite books are

Dragon Reborn and
Crown of Swords

But I liked them all!

Rosie

Arcala · 03-06-2003, 06:01 PM

I just finished Winter's heart, and it was pretty good, but I liked The Dragon Reborn best.

Arcala · 03-26-2003, 07:41 PM

Well, now I'm on Crossroads of Twilight. Anyone read it yet?

Grey_Wolf · 03-28-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
im only on From the Two Rivers, and im getting To The Blight. How many books is there actually?

Actually, there are 10 of them. Hopefully there will only be two more so that it will be finished soon.

elendili · 04-02-2003, 06:15 AM

I know there's the normal 10 books but what are "the two rivers " and "to the blight" books are they extended versions or something?

Amandil don't make me drag you through the screen and rip your head off. go away

Ninquelote · 04-04-2003, 11:58 PM

Grr, I was once arguing with a WoT lover, and they're like, "Well, women are more present in WoT than in LoTR"
and I'm like, "That's because LoTR Is fantasy that makes sense. LoTR was supposed to be an image of what Medieval times ACTUALLY WERE."

Then they're like, "Well, there are 10 huge books in the series. That's alot more writing than LoTR."
So I replied, "Wel, if Robert Jordan has to write 10 large books to match up to Tolkien's 3 in LoTR, then they can't be that good."

Then they're like, "Well, Robert Jordan make a language to go along with his books, and people search for weeks online to find more information about it!"
So I say, "Tolkien created 16 languages, and he wrote books finalizing his languages and making them ACTUAL LANGUAGES, not some made-up dribble."

Ninquelote · 04-05-2003, 12:00 AM

I believe I 'pwnd' him bad, if you know what I mean.

01-31-2003, 01:56 PM	#201
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	For information about Wheel of Time go to wotmainia.com or there is another site that is rather good. It might be dragonmount.com, but I'm not sure. Mat doesn't exactley become more mature. He just doesn't have much of a chance to have his fun. But he still complains about it. The books are moving a little slow at the moment, but I think the purpose of Book 10 was to set things up for Book 11, which, unless the series is going to have 20 books, should be quite eventful. Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

02-03-2003, 06:03 AM	#202
elendili Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: a galaxy far far away (aka Manchester) Posts: 320	I though book 10 left a lot of loose ends that will take ages to be explained Is it just me or is the WOT set after present day coz they talk about helicopters and lifts (elevators)? Perrin irritates me esp. since Faile got kidnaped she was the only interesting part of his scenes esp. when shes argueing with Berelain __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain "Courage my soul, now learn to wield The weight of thine immortal shield Place on thy head thy helmet bright Ballance thy sword against the fight See where an army strong as fair With silken banners spreads the air Now if thy bee'st that thing divine In this days combat let it shine: And shew that nature wants an art To conqeur one resolved heart" Andrew Marvell

02-03-2003, 01:29 PM	#203
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	i've started to read it but i've been busy so i haven't got very far. also i read about five books at one time so it takes me a while __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

02-06-2003, 04:09 PM	#204
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	I really don't know how everything is going to be wrapped up in two books, as they are supposed to be. There are SO many plot lines all going on at once, it would seem at least four or so books would be needed. I really don't know when Wheel of Time is set. I always thought it was a little before our time (they talk about people inventing the car at Rand's university in Cairhien) but in a parallel world like the one Hurin, Rand, Loial, and "Selene" were in in The Great Hunt. Both Perrin and Rand have annoyed me recently too. I never particularly like Faile, but I wanted her back so Perrin will FINALLY stop complaining. Wayfarer, why did you hate everything besides Mat and Perrin? Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

02-13-2003, 04:10 PM	#206
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	Thats a good point, perhaps the Wheel of Time is the distant future. I never thought about it that way. It's sort of interesting to think about. Maybe I can become a Hero of the Horn somehow and come back then to help out Mat, Perrin, Rand and the rest. Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

02-28-2003, 04:24 AM	#208
Amandil Guy-who-should-come-here-more-often Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Alberta, in spirit -- Vlaanderen, in body (Canada? Never heard of it!) Posts: 120	Ugh, these books suck. Why did I read this thread? __________________ Amandil Mithadan "Why would you want to tamper with anything Tolkien did?" --Ralph Bashki "Seeking self, I find nothing but myself, but in this I drink the cup of gall I really am. I want everything, and I may have everything, but I have nothing except what I have. What I have I know is not what will fulfill me, and I know this in the bitterness of satisfied desire. Everything I have is still not enough, and in getting everything I have, I have not myself, indeed what I have may have twisted what I am and might be into an image of my own possessions. I will to possess, but I end up possessed by what I possess." -- William Desmond (Ethics and the Between, p. 209-210)

02-28-2003, 08:46 AM	#210
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	When is the next book coming out? About the time problem: In The Wheel of Time, time is, well, a wheel. The Ages come and go, around and around and around and around . . . So it takes place in both the future and the past, so to speak. If you pay very close attention, you can find references to modern-day occurrences. For example: The Eye of the World - check out what Thom says when he first appears in the Two Rivers. Remember how he jumps up on a rock and starts juggling? Read what he says! He's talking about telling ancient stories from before the Age of Legends. Examples of these stories are that of Terez (or something like that) the fabulous mother of Ind, some guy with a name like Lenn going to the moon on an eagle, and some other things I forgot. Compare these two examples to the following: Mother Teresa of India, John Glenn going to the moon in the Eagle . Thom is talking about things from our time! So I think WOT takes place two "ages" in the future. After our time comes the Age of Legends, when magic and technology are both at their height, then WOT. Things just go in circles with slight differences. I wonder how many ages there are? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-02-2003, 04:26 PM	#212
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	im only on From the Two Rivers, and im getting To The Blight. How many books is there actually? __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

03-06-2003, 06:01 PM	#215
Arcala Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Eating WAY too much peanut butter... Posts: 274	I just finished Winter's heart, and it was pretty good, but I liked The Dragon Reborn best.

03-26-2003, 07:41 PM	#216
Arcala Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Eating WAY too much peanut butter... Posts: 274	Well, now I'm on Crossroads of Twilight. Anyone read it yet?

04-02-2003, 06:15 AM	#218
elendili Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: a galaxy far far away (aka Manchester) Posts: 320	I know there's the normal 10 books but what are "the two rivers " and "to the blight" books are they extended versions or something? Amandil don't make me drag you through the screen and rip your head off. go away __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain "Courage my soul, now learn to wield The weight of thine immortal shield Place on thy head thy helmet bright Ballance thy sword against the fight See where an army strong as fair With silken banners spreads the air Now if thy bee'st that thing divine In this days combat let it shine: And shew that nature wants an art To conqeur one resolved heart" Andrew Marvell

04-04-2003, 11:58 PM	#219
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	Grr, I was once arguing with a WoT lover, and they're like, "Well, women are more present in WoT than in LoTR" and I'm like, "That's because LoTR Is fantasy that makes sense. LoTR was supposed to be an image of what Medieval times ACTUALLY WERE." Then they're like, "Well, there are 10 huge books in the series. That's alot more writing than LoTR." So I replied, "Wel, if Robert Jordan has to write 10 large books to match up to Tolkien's 3 in LoTR, then they can't be that good." Then they're like, "Well, Robert Jordan make a language to go along with his books, and people search for weeks online to find more information about it!" So I say, "Tolkien created 16 languages, and he wrote books finalizing his languages and making them ACTUAL LANGUAGES, not some made-up dribble." __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

04-05-2003, 12:00 AM	#220
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	I believe I 'pwnd' him bad, if you know what I mean. __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

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