Women in LOTR - Page 10

Elvellyn · 04-12-2003, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by Lanelf
Whoa - did you two realise you have the same avatar?
But yes, they do tend to leave impressions. I've calculated the female parts of LOTR: 7. Galadriel, Arwen, Shelob, Eowyn, Goldberry, Rose Cotton and Lobelia Sackville-Baggins. Well, most leave impressions. Some *coughGoldberrycough* are just annoying.
Lanelf.

Hey! She stole my avatar!

Galadriel was wise and powerful. Arwen was beauty and grace personfied. Shelob was...interesting. eowyn was stong and independent. Goldberry was an intersting character. SHe was not elaborated on very much but I liked her. Rosie was a faithful, loving wife to Sam. And Lobeila, though she come across as a jerk, in the end was revealed to be as she truly was- not evil or anything, just a mean old lady.

Lanelf · 04-14-2003, 10:58 PM

*kneels and accepts Gwaimir's blessing* Yay! Thank you, Lord Gwaimir! *hugs Gwaimir, Linaewen and everyone else in the room* I've been recommunicated! - what? Is that the word? Oh well:
*joins in hymn*

Christiana · 04-14-2003, 11:34 PM

Linaewen · 04-15-2003, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanelf
*kneels and accepts Gwaimir's blessing* Yay! Thank you, Lord Gwaimir! *hugs Gwaimir, Linaewen and everyone else in the room* I've been recommunicated! - what? Is that the word? Oh well:
*joins in hymn*

No, no. Did you not see? I finished the hymn. I will start another one, just so you (or someone else) may finish it. Let's see...

An Elven-maid there was of old,
A shining star by day:
Her mantle white was hemmed with gold,
Her shoes of silver-grey.

A star was bound upon her brows,
A light was on her hair
As sun upon the golden boughs
In Lórien the fair.

BeardofPants · 04-15-2003, 03:39 PM

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-15-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants

Ooo, nice...

ladyarwen · 04-22-2003, 09:06 PM

I know that I'm kind of changing the subject, but I want to comment on the whole Women in LOTR:

Okay...about the women in the fellowship. No I don't think that there should've been any. Because the fellowship had at least one man to represent a race of middle earth. And women aren't known for fighting or stuff like that. I think that with the whole 9 Walkers against the 9 Riders, there shouldn't have added any either. And I love all of Tolkien's characters to death so I couldn't imagine not having Merry or Pippin or any of them being changed. I think there could have been more female characters, but it doesn't change my opinion on the books. I didn't really care.

. That's my opinion.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-22-2003, 10:46 PM

Yeah, a lot of fantasy these days seems to be kinda "silly", in my opinion, with women warriors running around all over, shielding bashing, skewering, and hewing everything around them. I prefer it where women seem more "historical" (NOT "lesser beings", by any means, but playing a different role, such as that of Galadriel or the REAL Arwen). And exception would be the Rohirrim or the Amazons, where there is a culture which seems to advocate that "to learn the ways of war is the true calling for all women*". Or at least some, and at least that it is a part of their culture.

* A quote from a "classic" computer game, Lords of Magic.

Bombadillo · 04-23-2003, 12:35 AM

Yeah it doesn't really matter to me, the importance of women in the books. It contributed to the realism that in most cultures women do seem lesser than men. Don't misunderstand me, I don't think inequality is a good thing. But Tolkien couldn't go out of his way just to make LotR politically correct.

WhackoJacko · 04-25-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bombadillo
But Tolkien couldn't go out of his way just to make LotR politically correct.

well you gotta feel the homosexuality of the text would you not??

A couple of homosexuelle hobbits trying to cast the "marriage" ring into the CrackODoom??

Eowyn dressing up as a man

Christiana · 04-25-2003, 11:36 PM

here is my philosiphy:men are the head of the house.However, women are the neck, and can turn it around.

Sminty_Smeagol · 04-25-2003, 11:37 PM

isnt that from... my big fat greek wedding?

Wayfarer · 04-25-2003, 11:47 PM

Quote:

* A quote from a "classic" computer game, Lords of Magic.

*best vampire voice* "Why art thou bothering /meee/? Dost thou vant something?"

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-26-2003, 10:20 AM

Who dares to disturb me? Your blood is mine! [singsong]Blood will flow.[/singsong]

Attalus · 04-26-2003, 05:01 PM

The most evil woman in LOTR is only mentioned once: Queen Beruthiel. Also, Galadriel is a pivotal character.

Wayfarer · 04-26-2003, 06:16 PM

*/surreptitiously exchanges his staff for a Staff of Light, and proceeds to beat Gwaimir over the head.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-27-2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
*/surreptitiously exchanges his staff for a Staff of Light, and proceeds to beat Gwaimir over the head.

Ooo, loved that thing. Though I don't think Wizards could use, wasn't it just Elven Warriors and Enchantresses?

-casts Turn Undead on Wayfarer

-

Wayfarer · 04-27-2003, 01:54 AM

*/casts 'Spaw Cave' on Gwaimir's bedroom, 'Lava Flow' on his driveway, and uses 'Polymorph Other' to turn his cat into a Dragon.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-27-2003, 02:04 AM

-casts Inferno on Wayfarer-

-Twice-

Don't remember Spaw Cave...

04-14-2003, 10:58 PM	#182
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	kneels and accepts Gwaimir's blessing Yay! Thank you, Lord Gwaimir! hugs Gwaimir, Linaewen and everyone else in the room I've been recommunicated! - what? Is that the word? Oh well: joins in hymn __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

04-14-2003, 11:34 PM	#183
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	__________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

04-15-2003, 03:39 PM	#185
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	__________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-22-2003, 10:46 PM	#188
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yeah, a lot of fantasy these days seems to be kinda "silly", in my opinion, with women warriors running around all over, shielding bashing, skewering, and hewing everything around them. I prefer it where women seem more "historical" (NOT "lesser beings", by any means, but playing a different role, such as that of Galadriel or the REAL Arwen). And exception would be the Rohirrim or the Amazons, where there is a culture which seems to advocate that "to learn the ways of war is the true calling for all women". Or at least some, and at least that it is a part of their culture. A quote from a "classic" computer game, Lords of Magic. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-23-2003, 12:35 AM	#189
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	Yeah it doesn't really matter to me, the importance of women in the books. It contributed to the realism that in most cultures women do seem lesser than men. Don't misunderstand me, I don't think inequality is a good thing. But Tolkien couldn't go out of his way just to make LotR politically correct. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-22-2003, 09:06 PM	#187
ladyarwen Sapling Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Valley of Rivendell Posts: 8	I know that I'm kind of changing the subject, but I want to comment on the whole Women in LOTR: Okay...about the women in the fellowship. No I don't think that there should've been any. Because the fellowship had at least one man to represent a race of middle earth. And women aren't known for fighting or stuff like that. I think that with the whole 9 Walkers against the 9 Riders, there shouldn't have added any either. And I love all of Tolkien's characters to death so I couldn't imagine not having Merry or Pippin or any of them being changed. I think there could have been more female characters, but it doesn't change my opinion on the books. I didn't really care. . That's my opinion.

04-25-2003, 11:36 PM	#191
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	here is my philosiphy:men are the head of the house.However, women are the neck, and can turn it around. __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

04-25-2003, 11:37 PM	#192
Sminty_Smeagol Manic Cardboard-Box Dweller Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In a house Posts: 1,071	isnt that from... my big fat greek wedding? __________________ I love the fishes.

04-26-2003, 10:20 AM	#194
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Who dares to disturb me? Your blood is mine! [singsong]Blood will flow.[/singsong] __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-26-2003, 05:01 PM	#195
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	The most evil woman in LOTR is only mentioned once: Queen Beruthiel. Also, Galadriel is a pivotal character. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

04-26-2003, 06:16 PM	#196
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	*/surreptitiously exchanges his staff for a Staff of Light, and proceeds to beat Gwaimir over the head. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-27-2003, 01:54 AM	#198
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	*/casts 'Spaw Cave' on Gwaimir's bedroom, 'Lava Flow' on his driveway, and uses 'Polymorph Other' to turn his cat into a Dragon. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-27-2003, 02:04 AM	#199
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	-casts Inferno on Wayfarer- -Twice- Don't remember Spaw Cave... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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