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Old 04-19-2003, 06:04 PM   #1
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Favorite Elf-King is Thingol.
Oh, good heavens!!! What are you thinking?!

Anglorfin: I agree Turgon was a great king. The whole concept of a hidden city was a great defense. Well, until it wasn't hidden anymore. Maeglin *spits on ground* was a rat!!
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Old 04-19-2003, 11:09 PM   #2
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Oh, good heavens!!! What are you thinking?!
Sheeeeesh. Not even I have that low opinion of Thingol. I wonder why the supporters of FF, had that attitude towards Thingol.
Could it be perhaps because they feel that Thingol murdered FF in a way.
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2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
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Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 04-19-2003, 11:11 PM   #3
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Sheeeeesh. Not even I have that low opinion of Thingol. I wonder why the supporters of FF, had that attitude towards Thingol.
Could it be perhaps because they feel that Thingol murdered FF in a way.
That's exactly why.
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Old 04-20-2003, 03:35 AM   #4
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Finrod. I have no Attitude towards Thingol, so it would be better not to Generalize the word "supporter."
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:50 AM   #5
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Anglorfin: I agree Turgon was a great king. The whole concept of a hidden city was a great defense. Well, until it wasn't hidden anymore. Maeglin *spits on ground* was a rat!!
*spits on ground also*

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Finrod. I have no Attitude towards Thingol, so it would be better not to Generalize the word "supporter."
Why? Also, welcome BelegS- the name of one of my fave characters! w00t!(Sorry Ruinel)
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:08 PM   #6
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I have no Attitude towards Thingol, so it would be better not to Generalize the word "supporter."
Yes, there is definitely a difference between a supporter and a true fan of FF. My mistake.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:56 PM   #7
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:38 PM   #8
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Gil-ga.... Ow! Finrod Felagund.
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:50 PM   #9
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Gil-ga.... Ow! Finrod Felagund.
=.0 That's more like it!

Maedhros: did I or did I not say that Turgon was a good king also? Sheesh! Just because I think that Thingol was a rotten king has nothing to do with Finrod (mostly). He was just a bad king, and a jerk as a father. And that outweighs anything he did to any one person. Sheesh! You're so quick to jump to conclusions.
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:13 PM   #10
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Sheesh! You're so quick to jump to conclusions.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:47 PM   #11
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Silly little pup... you said...
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Sheeeeesh. Not even I have that low opinion of Thingol. I wonder why the supporters of FF, had that attitude towards Thingol.
So, I get the impression you are being judgmental toward myself and SGH. When in fact, I have my own reasons for not liking Thingol that are completely separate from Finrod. Ok?
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:25 AM   #12
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So, I get the impression you are being judgmental toward myself and SGH. When in fact, I have my own reasons for not liking Thingol that are completely separate from Finrod. Ok?
Could be, but I think that the fact that Thingol knew that Beren had the Ring of Barahir, and that it would have been very probable that Beren would ask FF for help in his impossible quest, and endind up with FF's death is not a factor that I think would sit well with FF's fans.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:29 AM   #13
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...probable that Beren would ask FF for help in his impossible quest, and endind up with FF's death is not a factor that I think would sit well with FF's fans.
It doesn't sit well. But I am quite capable of stepping back and assessing Thingol outside of this. Thingol is a twerp.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:36 AM   #14
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He was at times, anyway.

But Thingol /did/ eventually come to accept the love his daughter had for beren. And after meeting Beren, his opinion of men was changed enough that he was willing to raise Turin as his own son
. He wasn't completely bad- Melian saw something in him that was enough to win her love. And that's no easy task.

Not that I would know. ]:-)
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:50 AM   #15
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He was at times, anyway.
"At times"????? Woooo, you are stretching it. Really, you are.

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But Thingol /did/ eventually come to accept the love his daughter had for beren. And after meeting Beren, his opinion of men was changed enough that he was willing to raise Turin as his own son. [/b]
True, but Beren had to lose a hand for the first thing to happen and die for the second thing to happen. (Although, Luthien was able to petition for his return.)

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He wasn't completely bad- Melian saw something in him that was enough to win her love. And that's no easy task.
He probably had a cute nacca.

However, I just felt sorry for her, the whole time... just pitty.
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:48 AM   #16
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Hacca. with an 'h'.

as in 'Lissë eldahacca, n*s, vanya telqui. Ruinel ruscowen.'
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Hacca. with an 'h'.
Oh, how funny. On my cheat sheet, I've scribbled so much that my 'h' and 'n' look alike. I must learn to take my time and write legibly. What is even more funny is 'nac-' is the root for 'bite'! I'll let your imagination roam for a while on that one.
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as in 'Lissë eldahacca, n*s, vanya telqui. Ruinel ruscowen.'
Vantal úvarna tië. Inyë útulca Atani n*s. Hanyal úcaurë hon va n*s? Hanyan saiwa órë, saiwa va Anar! Áva ustal haccalla!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:02 PM   #18
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Vantal úvarna tië. Inyë útulca Atani n*s. Hanyal úcaurë hon va n*s? Hanyan saiwa órë, saiwa va Anar! Áva ustal haccalla!!
Walk-you unsafe path. Even I not-steadfast human woman. Understand-you hot heart, hot (I will not/possessive) the Sun!
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:27 PM   #19
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Walk-you unsafe path. Even I not-steadfast human woman. Understand-you hot heart, hot (I will not/possessive) the Sun!
I won't not-feet!!


Yeah... I'm sure. :P
Criminey!!!! (note to self: must get better at Quenya to get Wayfarer back... but good) lol!

It's supposed to say: "You walk (an) unsafe path. Even I (am) not (a) weak Atani maiden. Possess you no fear from me as woman? I possess hot spirit, hot as the sun! Do not burn you your ass!"

Just realized that I needed to use '-on' ending not 'possess'. (#$!%%^@#^^@%$%^@^!$#$^$^$^@$!#$)
*bangs head on wall, 7 times* #$$#^%!$!#$%$%@%@%!!!!!

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Nyah, ]:-)
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