Dwarf-women

07-02-2000, 05:51 AM

Besides teh family trees in the appendices, is there even a mention of female dwarves in Tolkein's work? i've never seen any reference to them at all except for Thorin's (?) sister named only in the fmaily trees.

aryne *

07-02-2000, 07:32 AM

Dis (Thorin`s sister) is the only female dwarf mentioned by name, as far as I am aware.

According to Gimli, they `seldom went abroad, except at great need`. They were bearded, like the males, and therefore the two sexes were indistinguishable to other races. I would guess that the only time female dwarfs left their halls would be at times of upheaval. When the Balrog drove the dwarves from Moria or when Smaug forced them from Erebor are two examples that spring to mind.

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Aragorn_iz_cool · 04-20-2002, 02:54 PM

Dis was Fili and Kili's Mother. Also it says only 1/3 of the Drawves where female and that not all of them got married.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-20-2002, 03:03 PM

Well, the dwarves will die out quickly at that rate! Yeah, Dis is the only female ever mentioned...but you never know, some of those dwarves could have been female and you'd never know...

Go read some Terry Pratchett, you'll know what I mean.

Elf Girl · 04-20-2002, 06:28 PM

It says in the appendices that about one third of Dwarves are woman, but they look excactly like the men.

Faramir · 05-12-2002, 02:19 PM

If lady dwarves have beards, it must be like in Macbeth, you know, the wierd sisters? "You seem to be women, yet you have beards"-Banquo. Hehehe, funny.

***Khamûl*** · 05-12-2002, 11:04 PM

I don't think that I would want to be of a race where the women looked like the men. That'd just be freaky.

TinuvielChild · 05-15-2002, 09:20 PM

yeah Eruviel, Discworld forever! Cheery Littlebottom. heeheehee. yeah, that seems to be universal with all dwarves mentioned in any fantasy, they are nigh indistinguishable from the males and/or there are far fewer females than males.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-15-2002, 09:49 PM

Though perhaps that trend was started by Tolkien. *looks up origin of Tolkien's dwarves*

TinuvielChild · 05-15-2002, 10:27 PM

Quite probable...for example: Name me one fantasy author who came after Tolkien who did not rip off Tolkien in any way, shape, or form. I certainly can't.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-15-2002, 10:45 PM

*thinks about it*

Nope, neither can I!

Oh, and yeah, Discworld forever!!!

07-02-2000, 05:51 AM	#1
arynetrek Guest Posts: n/a	Dwarf-women Besides teh family trees in the appendices, is there even a mention of female dwarves in Tolkein's work? i've never seen any reference to them at all except for Thorin's (?) sister named only in the fmaily trees. aryne *

07-02-2000, 07:32 AM	#2
Taimar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Dwarf-women Dis (Thorin`s sister) is the only female dwarf mentioned by name, as far as I am aware. According to Gimli, they `seldom went abroad, except at great need`. They were bearded, like the males, and therefore the two sexes were indistinguishable to other races. I would guess that the only time female dwarfs left their halls would be at times of upheaval. When the Balrog drove the dwarves from Moria or when Smaug forced them from Erebor are two examples that spring to mind. Note from the admin: Taimar, your signature is screwed up and messed up the whole page, please fix it

04-20-2002, 03:03 PM	#4
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Well, the dwarves will die out quickly at that rate! Yeah, Dis is the only female ever mentioned...but you never know, some of those dwarves could have been female and you'd never know... Go read some Terry Pratchett, you'll know what I mean. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

04-20-2002, 06:28 PM	#5
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	It says in the appendices that about one third of Dwarves are woman, but they look excactly like the men. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

05-12-2002, 02:19 PM	#6
Faramir Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ithilien Posts: 353	If lady dwarves have beards, it must be like in Macbeth, you know, the wierd sisters? "You seem to be women, yet you have beards"-Banquo. Hehehe, funny. __________________ This is the Window of the Sunset, Henneth Annun, fairest of all the falls of Ithilien, land of many fountains."-Faramir, Chapter IV, The Two Towers ========================== FRODO LIVES!!! ========================== YODA IS DA MAN!!! ========================== I Love Jesus!

04-20-2002, 02:54 PM	#3
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	Dis was Fili and Kili's Mother. Also it says only 1/3 of the Drawves where female and that not all of them got married.

05-12-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	I don't think that I would want to be of a race where the women looked like the men. That'd just be freaky. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

05-15-2002, 09:20 PM	#8
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	yeah Eruviel, Discworld forever! Cheery Littlebottom. heeheehee. yeah, that seems to be universal with all dwarves mentioned in any fantasy, they are nigh indistinguishable from the males and/or there are far fewer females than males. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

05-15-2002, 09:49 PM	#9
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Though perhaps that trend was started by Tolkien. looks up origin of Tolkien's dwarves __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-15-2002, 10:27 PM	#10
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Quite probable...for example: Name me one fantasy author who came after Tolkien who did not rip off Tolkien in any way, shape, or form. I certainly can't. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

05-15-2002, 10:45 PM	#11
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	thinks about it Nope, neither can I! Oh, and yeah, Discworld forever!!! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

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