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Old 01-29-2014, 06:32 PM   #1
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An interesting side question is how Galadriel knew what Gandalf had told Frodo: Gandalf doesn’t seem to have visited Lórien between April 3018 and his death in Moria the following January.
Idle speculation is what this thread is all about. And yes - Smaug would have made a formidable possessor of the One Ring.

On communication between Gandalf and Galadriel. Yes - I think the greater rings may allow for some kind of communications link between wearers. It explains a lot. I think even so far as explaining much of what is known of Isildur's demise. And also how - Galadriel feared that if Sauron obtained the One, all that she had done would be laid bare, as in - exposed to him. I don't know if a Hobbit (or a man, even such a man as Isildur) could have read the thoughts of others, but I think their thoughts may have been open to the wielders of the Three, when they put on the One. Was not Celebrimbor aware of Sauron as soon as he made and put on the One? And I think the Three could have communication with one another. Even as they journey to their abodes, late in LOTR (in Dunland, I think); Elrond, Gandalf, Galadriel (maybe Celeborn too - but is he participant, or merely bystander?) appear to sit around all through the night, communicating via telepathy or something. Is it an Elvish thing (with Gandalf admitted as a Maia?) or is it their rings?

Forgot to mention - yes, I think the Ring would have grown to fit even a dragon-sized finger.
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Idle speculation is what this thread is all about.
Oh, thank you! I feel so much more productive now.

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On communication between Gandalf and Galadriel. Yes - I think the greater rings may allow for some kind of communications link between wearers. It explains a lot. ... I think their thoughts may have been open to the wielders of the Three, when they put on the One. Was not Celebrimbor aware of Sauron as soon as he made and put on the One? And I think the Three could have communication with one another. Even as they journey to their abodes, late in LOTR (in Dunland, I think); Elrond, Gandalf, Galadriel (maybe Celeborn too - but is he participant, or merely bystander?) appear to sit around all through the night, communicating via telepathy or something. Is it an Elvish thing (with Gandalf admitted as a Maia?) or is it their rings?
When the surviving Eight of Nine Walkers (reduced to Seven of Nine after Boromir was lost) reached Caras Galadhon, Galadriel said she couldn’t see Gandalf unless he entered Lórien, that he was surrounded by a grey mist.

When Galadriel, Celeborn, Elrond, and Gandalf sat around a few days in what was left of Eregion before parting company, they were practicing ósanwe-kenta, or direct communication via thought. (That’s probably what happened between Celeborn and Galadriel during the silence after Galadriel gently rebuked her beloved, “the wisest of the Elves of Middle-earth,” when he blurted out he’d have barred the Eight survivors from Lórien had he known the Dwarves had stirred up a Balrog in Moria – something he apparently suspected was there, a suspicion both he and Galadriel neglected to mention to Gandalf, unfortunately – and that Gandalf had fallen from wisdom to folly in his old age.)


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Forgot to mention - yes, I think the Ring would have grown to fit even a dragon-sized finger.
Si, I agree.
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