Tolkien's Languages

[Elemmírë]

I've got about 5 lessons left to go with Quenya... where do you get good lessons for Sindarin?

[ItalianLegolas]

I really want to learn how to speak some Quenya, or really any language, but I'm currently taking Italian, and I'm not sure if I can study both at the same time...

[Elf Girl]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

I've got about 5 lessons left to go with Quenya... where do you get good lessons for Sindarin?

Fellowship of the Word-Smiths has the Sindarin course I'm using, but I have no idea if it's good or not.

[Elemmírë]

Heh... I can't exactly download it onto a library computer... so I'll have to wait 'til I get back to school next week...

Originally Posted by ItalianLegolas

I really want to learn how to speak some Quenya, or really any language, but I'm currently taking Italian, and I'm not sure if I can study both at the same time...

Che bella! I like Italian, but I've never actually taken it... With my notorious habit of taking languages (French, Spanish, and now Japanese... not to mention Quenya, and maybe Sindarin soon) I really can't say why not...

You could always try to start learning, and if you start getting confused, stop. I personally am not aiming for fluency (at the moment, at least), but simply want to learn how to construct sentences in Quenya and know enough to be able to use a dictionary to fill in the rest... and I suppose I'm there now.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Originally Posted by Elf Girl

Fellowship of the Word-Smiths has the Sindarin course I'm using, but I have no idea if it's good or not.

Do you know if there is one f them for Quenya?

[Sirion]

You can go here for a Quenya course, TD. It's pretty good... though it takes quite a bit of time to get through...

LM

[edit] My computer won't support the Sindarin course... I'm going to have to try to find another one...

[Elemmírë]

And I'm back.

Does anyone know any other Sindarin courses? My computer can't handle the formatting.

[Embladyne]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

And I'm back.

Does anyone know any other Sindarin courses? My computer can't handle the formatting.

Um, well my computer converted it into PDF format...it should work with adobe...Or, I can print it out for you?
Edit: nix the printing...it's many pages long....
maybe there's some other solution.

[Elemmírë]

Well. Since I don't have time to learn Sindarin in any case, and probably won't for a while

Mana méra quetë Quenya?

It's just four words, but still no dictionary.

[Elemmírë]

Em wants me to post this. It's my own rather loose translation of Robert Frost's poem, Nothing Gold Can Stay:
Nature's first green is gold
Her hardest hue to hold
Her early leaf a flower
But only so an hour
Then leaf subsides to leaf
So Eden sank to grief
So dawn goes down to day
Nothing gold can stay.

Minya laiqua Eo laurëa ná
Ansarda mapa ná.
Arinya lasserya ná lótë;
Mal er sië lúmessë.
San lassë lanta lassenen
Sië alcarë lantë nyérenen,
Sië amaurëa ahyëa aurenna
Munta laurëa vórëa ná.

Falagar? You around by any chance? I'm not sure about the last words of some of those lines... the allative didn't seem likely... don't know what would work except the instrumental...

[jean person]

Originally Posted by Falagar

The Unforgiven II
I Úvatyaina II
The Unforgiven II

Lay beside me
Caita ara nin
Lay beside me

well first, is "lay" suppose to be imperative or optative or indicative? my view is that it's imperative and is speaking to "you" singular;so..."á caitat"

next, "nin" is dative when you should use the accusative which is the same than the nominative but the final voyelles is long;

so :"á caitat ara enyé" or "á caitat ara nyé"

I stop there because there would be to much correction to be made, just one thing all the quenya that you learned is a NEO-quenya and should be more accuratly named PSEUDO-quenya because it would make Tolkien sick for sure.