Musical Theme

CardenIAntauraNauco · 12-25-2001, 10:38 PM

It seemed like there was a lack of a complete musical theme in the Fellowship. Well, there was those reoccuring three ascending Trumpet notes but I do not think that qualifies. I think it is still possible for them to have a solid theme in the second movie. It is an important things and almost every good movie has to have a good musical theme. Does anyone else feel that is nescessary, or at least beneficial.

Renille · 12-25-2001, 11:16 PM

Do you have a copy of a soundtrack, CardenIAntauraNauco? The theme is evident in it. It's not quite as obvious as the Harry Potter movie or Star Wars themes, but it works. And I'm not sure I believe that a theme is necessary, but a good solid musical core is, preferrably with some recognizable phrases now and again.

***Ben*** · 12-25-2001, 11:51 PM

While Shore's score doesn't have the beloved themes contained in Williams' best, it still fit the movie very well and had some recognizable tunes. In particular, there was the noble-sounding trumpet theme, and then the dark, chain-heavy music that identified Isengard.

I haven't listened to the soundtrack much yet but I'm sure we'll all grow to like the music.

***HOBBIT*** · 12-26-2001, 12:07 AM

yeah, you haven't listened to it becuase I own the cd and won't let you

Darth Tater · 12-26-2001, 11:08 AM

The soundtrack is brilliant, you just probably had trouble identifiying the themes the first time around because some of them are pretty complex and they are all subtle.

CardenIAntauraNauco · 12-26-2001, 02:01 PM

I love the reoccuring phrases that they have. And contrary to your beliefs, I did hear the "subtle" uses of those phrases. I loved the music from the movie but I felt it might be beneficial to have a theme in its entirety. I believe there was a large misconception as to the meaning of my words. All I meant was that in the second movie they might do well to have a theme that could be replayed and entirely recognized. I think it would be great to after the movie have arrangments of it made for bands and piano and such. And as it is you could not do so. I simply wanted to find out if I was the only one who thought this was true. I am not just another brain-dead idiot condeming the movie for illogical reasons. I feel it would be beneficial.Thats all

12-25-2001, 10:38 PM	#1
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	Musical Theme It seemed like there was a lack of a complete musical theme in the Fellowship. Well, there was those reoccuring three ascending Trumpet notes but I do not think that qualifies. I think it is still possible for them to have a solid theme in the second movie. It is an important things and almost every good movie has to have a good musical theme. Does anyone else feel that is nescessary, or at least beneficial. __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

12-25-2001, 11:16 PM	#2
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Do you have a copy of a soundtrack, CardenIAntauraNauco? The theme is evident in it. It's not quite as obvious as the Harry Potter movie or Star Wars themes, but it works. And I'm not sure I believe that a theme is necessary, but a good solid musical core is, preferrably with some recognizable phrases now and again. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

12-25-2001, 11:51 PM	#3
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	While Shore's score doesn't have the beloved themes contained in Williams' best, it still fit the movie very well and had some recognizable tunes. In particular, there was the noble-sounding trumpet theme, and then the dark, chain-heavy music that identified Isengard. I haven't listened to the soundtrack much yet but I'm sure we'll all grow to like the music. __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

12-26-2001, 12:07 AM	#4
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12-26-2001, 11:08 AM	#5
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	The soundtrack is brilliant, you just probably had trouble identifiying the themes the first time around because some of them are pretty complex and they are all subtle. __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

12-26-2001, 02:01 PM	#6
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	I love the reoccuring phrases that they have. And contrary to your beliefs, I did hear the "subtle" uses of those phrases. I loved the music from the movie but I felt it might be beneficial to have a theme in its entirety. I believe there was a large misconception as to the meaning of my words. All I meant was that in the second movie they might do well to have a theme that could be replayed and entirely recognized. I think it would be great to after the movie have arrangments of it made for bands and piano and such. And as it is you could not do so. I simply wanted to find out if I was the only one who thought this was true. I am not just another brain-dead idiot condeming the movie for illogical reasons. I feel it would be beneficial.Thats all __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

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