I know what it is that you saw

The Wizard from Milan · 12-17-2005, 04:48 PM

In the scene of the mirror of Galadriel. Galadriel says to Frodo "I know what it is that you saw, for it is also on my mind". But how did she know that what he saw was the same thing that was on her mind?

Sorry, second geeky thread in this forum, but I have to get these things off my chest

Lotesse · 12-17-2005, 04:50 PM

Ooooo, that's a good one! I don't know. That's a damn good question.

Firekitten2006 · 12-17-2005, 07:54 PM

I could be wrong, I should breally read the books again. But I think it was because of her ability to read the thoughts.

***Jonathan*** · 12-18-2005, 06:48 AM

Seeing as in the movie after Frodo has looked into the mirror, Frodo and Galadriel talks to each other without moving their lips. So Galadriel could indeed read thoughts and thus she could know "what it was that Frodo saw".

The Wizard from Milan · 12-18-2005, 10:14 AM

Thanks.
That solves it.

Gordis · 12-18-2005, 01:44 PM

Actually, the words of Galadriel were taken from the book:

Quote:

But suddenly the Mirror went altogether dark, as dark as if a hole had opened in the world of sight, and Frodo looked into emptiness. In the black abyss there appeared a single Eye that slowly grew, until it filled nearly all the Mirror. So terrible was it that Frodo stood rooted, unable to cry out or to withdraw his gaze....
The Ring that hung upon its chain about his neck grew heavy, heavier than a great stone, and his head was dragged downwards. The Mirror seemed to be growing hot and curls of steam were rising from the water. He was slipping forward.
`Do not touch the water!' said the Lady Galadriel softly. The vision faded, and Frodo found that he was looking at the cool stars twinkling in the silver basin. He stepped back shaking all over and looked at the Lady.
`I know what it was that you last saw,' she said; `for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid!

So in the book it is clear that Galadriel knew what Frodo last saw (the Eye), just by observing the mirror steaming, by Frodo's reaction and the Ring's reaction as well.

Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was that Frodo last saw in the mirror in the movie. Was it the Eye as well?

Curubethion · 12-18-2005, 01:50 PM

I believe it was the Eye. Because it appeared, and it seemingly was trying to drag the Ring towards it...if I correctly remember.

Merenwen Vardamir · 12-19-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Curubethion

I believe it was the Eye. Because it appeared, and it seemingly was trying to drag the Ring towards it...if I correctly remember.

In the movie he saw all his friends enslaved and stuff. He saw the world as it would become if the quest to destroy the ring failed.

***Jonathan*** · 12-19-2005, 05:23 PM

Yes, but we talked about what he saw last. I saw the movie a couple of days ago and I'm 99% sure it was the Eye.

Merenwen Vardamir · 12-20-2005, 11:39 AM

Oh, okay. And yes, it was the eye. I think... lol. He saw a flash of the eye and then grabbed the ring and flung himself backwards.

Orodreth Melwasúl · 03-07-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merenwen Vardamir

Oh, okay. And yes, it was the eye. I think... lol. He saw a flash of the eye and then grabbed the ring and flung himself backwards.

Why they toke an Eye? Whats so scary 'bout an Eye? It's just a question, I'm not Tolkien :l

Curubethion · 03-29-2006, 10:27 PM

Not just any old eye, mind you, but The Eye

Olmer · 03-30-2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was that Frodo last saw in the mirror in the movie. Was it the Eye as well?

It doesn't matter what he saw last. She could read the mind. Remember, how she played with each member of the Fellowship, reading theirs deeper thoughts and offering a temptation according to degree of their own "spoilage"?

She knew every bit what runs in Frodo's head at that moment.
She is scary!!!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-30-2006, 03:44 PM

I should venture a guess that the question is answered in one of two ways.

1) The Mirror was in some way linked with Galadriel, so that whatever it showed was reflected also in her mind.

2) Galadriel read Frodo's reaction, and recognised in it 'that which he saw'.

12-17-2005, 04:48 PM	#1
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	I know what it is that you saw In the scene of the mirror of Galadriel. Galadriel says to Frodo "I know what it is that you saw, for it is also on my mind". But how did she know that what he saw was the same thing that was on her mind? Sorry, second geeky thread in this forum, but I have to get these things off my chest

12-17-2005, 04:50 PM	#2
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Ooooo, that's a good one! I don't know. That's a damn good question. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

12-17-2005, 07:54 PM	#3
Firekitten2006 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the US of A! But I wish i was in austraila, never been, just think it would be a fun place to live :) Posts: 372	I could be wrong, I should breally read the books again. But I think it was because of her ability to read the thoughts. __________________ I'm Baaaack!!

12-18-2005, 06:48 AM	#4
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Seeing as in the movie after Frodo has looked into the mirror, Frodo and Galadriel talks to each other without moving their lips. So Galadriel could indeed read thoughts and thus she could know "what it was that Frodo saw". __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

12-18-2005, 01:50 PM	#7
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	I believe it was the Eye. Because it appeared, and it seemingly was trying to drag the Ring towards it...if I correctly remember. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

12-18-2005, 10:14 AM	#5
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	Thanks. That solves it.

12-19-2005, 05:23 PM	#9
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Yes, but we talked about what he saw last. I saw the movie a couple of days ago and I'm 99% sure it was the Eye. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

12-20-2005, 11:39 AM	#10
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	Oh, okay. And yes, it was the eye. I think... lol. He saw a flash of the eye and then grabbed the ring and flung himself backwards.

03-29-2006, 10:27 PM	#12
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Not just any old eye, mind you, but The Eye __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

03-30-2006, 03:44 PM	#14
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I should venture a guess that the question is answered in one of two ways. 1) The Mirror was in some way linked with Galadriel, so that whatever it showed was reflected also in her mind. 2) Galadriel read Frodo's reaction, and recognised in it 'that which he saw'. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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