Beorn's Powers

Lief Erikson · 10-25-2002, 02:41 AM

Those magical things which you mentioned as things of the powers of men, Afro elf, are all things. They are magical items, but that doesn't show magic within the natural abilities of men. Beorn's being a magician could be because of an ancestor having a relationship with a Maiar.

Simply because Gandalf says that he knew the spells of elves, men and orcs also doesn't necessarily show anything. There are never any orcs shown with magical powers, or men, besides Beorn. Gandalf knows these things because he is a wizard, and the reason that the powers work the way they do is because they are each from a different species. The magic is a part of the species, in a way, and because of his own immortality, Gandalf has access to them.

Well, this is one way of arguing that, anyway. I'm actually not sure, Afro elf, whether I believe your view or this one more

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10-25-2002, 02:41 AM	#33
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Those magical things which you mentioned as things of the powers of men, Afro elf, are all things. They are magical items, but that doesn't show magic within the natural abilities of men. Beorn's being a magician could be because of an ancestor having a relationship with a Maiar. Simply because Gandalf says that he knew the spells of elves, men and orcs also doesn't necessarily show anything. There are never any orcs shown with magical powers, or men, besides Beorn. Gandalf knows these things because he is a wizard, and the reason that the powers work the way they do is because they are each from a different species. The magic is a part of the species, in a way, and because of his own immortality, Gandalf has access to them. Well, this is one way of arguing that, anyway. I'm actually not sure, Afro elf, whether I believe your view or this one more .