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i havent seen it but i intend too, i was surprised not to see a thread on it. just wondering what people thought about it
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05-15-2004, 02:28 PM
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Going to see it tomorrow, will give you a review when I get back. Looks good, but I've seen one or two bad reviews...
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05-15-2004, 03:57 PM
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Blergh. Big piece of overrated hollywood crap. Not gonna be in any hurry to see it any time soon.
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05-15-2004, 04:04 PM
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Thank you, I've been pondering that for a while.
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05-16-2004, 04:06 AM
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 I do intend to see it, but I'll try to keep my expectations low ....
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05-16-2004, 04:32 AM
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enjoyable enough but definately no Gladiator, the director crapped on about how much bigger this film is than Gladiator and about how his movie is going to have the most brutal battles ever commited to film  ...I just loved the fight between Brendon Gleeson and Orlando Bloom, i guess from watching LotR too much i was just expecting Bloom to win a fight he so obviously couldnt, and so i was pleasantly surprised when Gleeson gave him a right old beating and Bloom had to crawl back to Eric Bana for help.... Eric Bana was the only real standout, i just loved him. His acting is always incredible, the director had originally seen him in Chopper and said he would be perfect but he was too fat he had too gain so much weight for that role and if the director had seen the start of that movie he wouldnt have made such a stupid comment anyway my favorite was obviously Hector and i hated Achilles, Hector was just a character that you could love while Achilles was an arrogant ****. We all know that in a real fight Bana would kick Brad Pitts arse
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05-16-2004, 06:08 PM
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Great movie! Some bad acting, some bad Holywood-style decisions but overall a well made film.
 And the fight between Hector and Achillevs...good stuff. The scene where Orlando crawled back was satisfying (and very good) but radically changed the whole story from the Iliad. And I think Pitt did a good job with Achillevs, just as arrogant as he should be. I don't think Bana did such a good job. Sure, he got it done, but he had a weird way of saying his lines that reminded me of some bad Holywood movie.
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05-16-2004, 10:07 PM
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They had an advance shoping here in Tokyo on Saturday and I was so psyched to see it: however, I was severely let down.
Aside from the moments when Achilles was engaged in combat the film failed to deliver. It seemed like a straight to video release movie. Cheesy lines. With such a wealth of characters and history you would think that there could be some character development. Helen and Paris. Hardly believable romance between the two. As mentioned above, Achilles' fight sequences were a joy to watch. Brad was in great shape. But the fatal flaw for me was that he lacked the voice for the role. His " Immortality is yours take it!" , failed because he has not the voice of a cinema warrior. Though I like Greek tales over Roman, for a VERY VERY, VERY, silly reason Gladiator was a FAR superior movie. I think the girls might like the nude near nude Brad Pitt scenes though. I also thought it was interesting that Achilles and Hector were the ones inclined to a less than theistic view of the world. Last edited by afro-elf : 05-16-2004 at 10:12 PM. |
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05-17-2004, 11:17 AM
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Just saw it, and it was a let down.
The whole movie seemed to be a "Lets see Brad Pitt naked with his flaxen blonde hair fluttering in the breeze". I read the Illiad at school and his Achillies was not nearly what I expected. I just wasn't really sure what he was on about, and its hard to feel for a character who is basically a glory hound. The best parts of the movie were or course the battles, but the ensemble cast was a definate highlight. The great Peter O'Toole was Priam, the king of Troy, and they dont call him "the great" for nothing. He is great. Eric Bana as Hector is easily the best of the rest, along with sean bean as Ulyesses, and the two brother Greek kings (cant think of their names). Bloom aint much good either, and as soon as he picks up the Bow and starts firing arrows, you just see ELF! Damn funny. Still, its a good enough movie for me to not feel cheated out of my 10 bucks.
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05-17-2004, 07:32 PM
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05-18-2004, 11:29 PM
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I liked it, but aside from Peter O'Toole, the acting was kinda cheesy
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05-19-2004, 12:15 PM
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It could have been worse, but IMO it was a wasted opportunity to make a great film of a great story. I can't believe they managed to get such an awful script out of The Iliad. That takes real talent
And Brad Pitt cannot act. At all. But apart from the main character being dreadful and almost every line making me wince, yeah, it was great
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05-19-2004, 04:04 PM
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I haven't seen it yet (waiting until after my Greek Epic exam), but I've heard they've changed alot. Is it true that
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05-19-2004, 07:32 PM
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No it is NOT. Who ever told you that got the names mixed up.
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) also great to see the Castle, Choppers better but easily one of Australias greatest movies...Quote:
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05-20-2004, 11:12 AM
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But even so - it rules out the whole Agamemnon/Clytaemnestra myth.
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05-20-2004, 08:46 PM
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Hoplite Nomad
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Yes, the movie did change that.
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05-20-2004, 09:58 PM
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Yeah...and some of us shamelessly enjoyed that....I saw it on Monday, and I thought it was very enjoyable. (Brad Pitt's rear aside.) I don't think I had any expectations for it, and it was good movie as far as movies go. I had heard that it was supposed to be more gory than Gladiator, and even the Patriot....not sure who had that opinion. It wasn't very gory at all, I didn't think. Orlando Bloom....such a wimp in this...oi...my friend and I laughed when he crawled away from his fight. So bad...but whoever mentioned something about only seeing elf when he was shooting the arrows was absolutely right. And as for the romance between Paris and Helen....*snore* She's muy pretty, but they were hardly IN the movie after the beginning. I like the romance between Breseis and Achilles much better. You felt much more sympathetic for their characters. I thought Eric Bana presented the best acting. He was fabulous as Hector. He delivered some of the best lines, too. Over all, definitely a movie worth seeing, even if it isn't a Oscar award winning classic.
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I'd love to see a film of the Odyssey (hopefully with a better script) with Sean Bean as Odysseus. He was my favourite bit of the film apart from Peter O'Toole (who I liked for different reasons, I should point out ).
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05-21-2004, 02:57 PM
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well, I havent seen it yet, and I'm not sure I want to until it comes to dvd.
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