Favorite Elf-King? - Page 17

Artanis · 01-06-2004, 05:08 AM

Hi Thorin II, welcome!

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Originally posted by Thorin II
I vote for Gil-galad. He wasn't as powerful as some of his predecessors, but I respect him for leading the Elves even as they started to decline. I don't think many (or any) of the previous High Kings would've formed an alliance with Men.

Gil-Galad was great. But he wasn't the only High King to make alliance with Men. Both Fingolfin and Fingon had Men as allies, and so had others of the Elf Lords of old: Finrod, Maedhros ...

brownjenkins · 01-06-2004, 03:00 PM

gil-galad was the only elf-king, other than fëanor and maedhros, that realized that the only way to achieve true victory over an enemy was to make an attempt, even if costly, to utterly defeat him... and unlike the other two, he didn't have the shortcomings that made their attempts failures

Lefty Scaevola · 01-12-2004, 11:51 AM

This thread, "Favorite Elf King" has more posts than all the chapters of the Silmarrilion project combined.

Now i might understand that if it were filled with pics of Elf hunks and babes, (like a pic of Fingolfin in full armor and battle wrath) but otherwisaeit seems a misapllication of poster's attention.

Oh, and yes, Fingolfin, definitly Fingolfin.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-12-2004, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
This thread, "Favorite Elf King" has more posts than all the chapters of the Silmarrilion project combined.
Now i might understand that if it were filled with pics of Elf hunks and babes, (like a pic of Fingolfin in full armor and battle wrath) but otherwisaeit seems a misapllication of poster's attention.

Oh, and yes, Fingolfin, definitly Fingolfin.

Now Lefty, you must understand too, that this thread is also about a year and a half older than the Sil project.

Artanis · 01-12-2004, 01:13 PM

And I assume there are some heavy FF discussions in here, with one particularly stub... err... active participant.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-12-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Artanis
And I assume there are some heavy FF discussions in here, with one particularly stub... err... active participant.

Yeah, that dang Ruinel and her fantasies.

Artanis · 01-12-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Yeah, that dang Ruinel and her fantasies.

Oh yeah, I should have said two instead of one in above post.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-12-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Artanis
Oh yeah, I should have said two instead of one in above post.

I can't imagine who else you could be refering to.

Artanis · 01-12-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I can't imagine who else you could be refering to.

Doesn't matter, everyone else can.

Lefty Scaevola · 01-12-2004, 05:04 PM

Would you be suggesting the the Sil project discussion will increase with the next chapter: Of Beren and Luthien, becasue of a certain sidekick of the two protagonists?

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-12-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Would you be suggesting the the Sil project discussion will increase with the next chapter: Of Beren and Luthien, becasue of a certain sidekick of the two protagonists?

You never know.

Thorin II · 01-12-2004, 06:36 PM

What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts.

Maedhros · 01-12-2004, 06:36 PM

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Oh yeah, I should have said two instead of one in above post.

That is sad beyond words.

Arien the Maia · 01-12-2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Thorin II
What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts.

As much as I absoluetly ADORE my dear Feanaro, I have to agree....perhaps if he didn't ride on to basically die fighting Balrogs, we would have seen what kind of king he would have been....

Tuor of Gondolin · 01-12-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Thorin II
What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts.
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You could be right. It's rumored Melkor once commented,
"You can't do business with that hot-head Feanor Corleone."

But for my part, although I don't think they were ever Kings, most disliked would be the Nasty Boys, Celegorm and Caranthir. Caranthir certainly had his daddy's temper.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-13-2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Thorin II
What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts.

Thingol.

Artanis · 01-13-2004, 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Thingol.

Hm. I have to agree with you. Though I don't think he was that bad. But worse than rest of the bunch, yes. That is, as Tuor said, if Celegorm and Caranthir had been kings I would vote for them. Probably Celegorm.

brownjenkins · 01-13-2004, 05:01 PM

i'd probably say the celegorm was one of the worst... even his dog turned against him!

in terms of success/failure, though i like the character very much i'd have to say that in some ways fingolfin was one of the worst, since he squandered the opportunity to take out melkor when he had the chance... probably the best and only chance of the elves in the first age

Thorin II · 01-14-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Thingol.

Thingol certainly had his faults (including pride, like Feanor), but I don't think he caused as much misery as Feanor did. He may have been bull-headed and unreasonable, but he wasn't arrogant enough to refuse the Valar.

jammi567 · 06-02-2006, 02:37 AM

Turgon because although he was prideful, he did do the sensable thing and kept out of the way of Morgoth.

01-06-2004, 03:00 PM	#322
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	gil-galad was the only elf-king, other than fëanor and maedhros, that realized that the only way to achieve true victory over an enemy was to make an attempt, even if costly, to utterly defeat him... and unlike the other two, he didn't have the shortcomings that made their attempts failures __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

01-12-2004, 11:51 AM	#323
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	This thread, "Favorite Elf King" has more posts than all the chapters of the Silmarrilion project combined. Now i might understand that if it were filled with pics of Elf hunks and babes, (like a pic of Fingolfin in full armor and battle wrath) but otherwisaeit seems a misapllication of poster's attention. Oh, and yes, Fingolfin, definitly Fingolfin. __________________ Gaius Mucius Scaevola Older, richer, and wiser than you "Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor, but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Iluvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, ... And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me,"

01-12-2004, 01:13 PM	#325
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	And I assume there are some heavy FF discussions in here, with one particularly stub... err... active participant. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die. Last edited by Artanis : 01-12-2004 at 01:17 PM.

01-12-2004, 06:36 PM	#332
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts. __________________ "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

01-12-2004, 09:46 PM	#335
Tuor of Gondolin Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,215	--------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Thorin II What about your least favorite Elf king? As unpopular as this will make me, I vote for Feanor. He allowed his pride to get in the way of his incredible gifts. ____________________________________ You could be right. It's rumored Melkor once commented, "You can't do business with that hot-head Feanor Corleone." But for my part, although I don't think they were ever Kings, most disliked would be the Nasty Boys, Celegorm and Caranthir. Caranthir certainly had his daddy's temper. __________________ Democrat for Kerry-Edwards! Take Back America Aure entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin : 01-12-2004 at 09:48 PM.

01-12-2004, 05:04 PM	#330
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Would you be suggesting the the Sil project discussion will increase with the next chapter: Of Beren and Luthien, becasue of a certain sidekick of the two protagonists?

01-13-2004, 05:01 PM	#338
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	i'd probably say the celegorm was one of the worst... even his dog turned against him! in terms of success/failure, though i like the character very much i'd have to say that in some ways fingolfin was one of the worst, since he squandered the opportunity to take out melkor when he had the chance... probably the best and only chance of the elves in the first age __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

06-02-2006, 02:37 AM	#340
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