question for mods about "on topic"

brownjenkins · 02-14-2005, 03:41 PM

is deleting relatively harmless posts necessary?

per JDs thread?

i can understand to some extent the "on topic" thing... but deleting stuff... it's not the end of the world or anything, but it makes conversation kinda tough

Insidious Rex · 02-14-2005, 03:43 PM

agreed. truly stunning move. PERFECTLY good material was just wiped away in the name of staying on a topic that was a mockery of itself to begin with. im amazed. why not just split stuff off at the very least?

Blackheart · 02-14-2005, 03:44 PM

Umm.. I was going to pontificate about the possibility of certain parallels in our own legal structure, (as per bluebook laws, and other similar policies) but I'm scared to now...

OMG, entmoot isn't a free country!

brownjenkins · 02-14-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Golden Hair

My dear IR, I find it attrocious that you question moderator actions in open forum rather than by email or PM. That is a violation of Entmoot's posting policies, as you well know.

i wasn't aware of this myself... but considering the fact that we are all adults here... could we discuss this one issue in public?

brownjenkins · 02-14-2005, 04:26 PM

just read the rules again

i mod a few boards myself and know how these things go... it's tough keeping things in line... that said, i never delete 'cause it's irreversable

maybe in the future we could lock said thread and have the user start over... i personally had stepped out and didn't intend to step back in, seeing as it did not seem possible to fairly address the topic at hand within the limits imposed

those are my thoughts

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-14-2005, 04:30 PM

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-14-2005, 04:38 PM

Let me just say this: first, with the new vbulletin, deleted posts are not lost. All mods can see them still and the reasons given for their deletion. Deleted posts can be restored at anytime.

I find the starting of this thread to be totally out of line, however, I am not unwilling to discuss the issue, but as for Entmoot, no, it is not a free country.

I made a moderating call and deleted posts at my descretion which is reserved to the rights of the staff. You do not have to agree with it, but it would be nice if you appreciated the job we do.

Elemmírë · 02-14-2005, 04:40 PM

Entmoot isn't even a country!

Since the post is apparently still on record, if you guys liked it so much, can't SGH just PM it back to inked and have him post it in a thread where it isn't off topic?

brownjenkins · 02-14-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Golden Hair

Let me just say this: first, with the new vbulletin, deleted posts are not lost. All mods can see them still and the reasons given for their deletion. Deleted posts can be restored at anytime.

I find the starting of this thread to be totally out of line, however, I am not unwilling to discuss the issue, but as for Entmoot, no, it is not a free country.

I made a moderating call and deleted posts at my descretion which is reserved to the rights of the staff. You do not have to agree with it, but it would be nice if you appreciated the job we do.

i think i did here and have before... but once again, i appreciate your efforts, all the more so 'cause i've been there

i just was offering an alternative solution for the future that might ruffle a few less feathers... and still achieve the same goal

obviously, the final decision is yours and i respect it because of your position, whether i agree with it or not

me9996 · 03-28-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Golden Hair

Let me just say this: first, with the new vbulletin, deleted posts are not lost. All mods can see them still and the reasons given for their deletion. Deleted posts can be restored at anytime.

I find the starting of this thread to be totally out of line, however, I am not unwilling to discuss the issue, but as for Entmoot, no, it is not a free country.

I made a moderating call and deleted posts at my descretion which is reserved to the rights of the staff. You do not have to agree with it, but it would be nice if you appreciated the job we do.

Er... What kind of government does entmoot have then?

02-14-2005, 03:41 PM	#1
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	question for mods about "on topic" is deleting relatively harmless posts necessary? per JDs thread? i can understand to some extent the "on topic" thing... but deleting stuff... it's not the end of the world or anything, but it makes conversation kinda tough __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

02-14-2005, 03:43 PM	#2
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	agreed. truly stunning move. PERFECTLY good material was just wiped away in the name of staying on a topic that was a mockery of itself to begin with. im amazed. why not just split stuff off at the very least? __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-14-2005, 03:44 PM	#3
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	Umm.. I was going to pontificate about the possibility of certain parallels in our own legal structure, (as per bluebook laws, and other similar policies) but I'm scared to now... OMG, entmoot isn't a free country! __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ... Last edited by Blackheart : 02-14-2005 at 03:47 PM. Reason: SO bite my non-shiney ass of darkness, I can't spell. Why do you think we invented the dark language?

02-14-2005, 04:26 PM	#5
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	just read the rules again i mod a few boards myself and know how these things go... it's tough keeping things in line... that said, i never delete 'cause it's irreversable maybe in the future we could lock said thread and have the user start over... i personally had stepped out and didn't intend to step back in, seeing as it did not seem possible to fairly address the topic at hand within the limits imposed those are my thoughts __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

02-14-2005, 04:38 PM	#7
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Let me just say this: first, with the new vbulletin, deleted posts are not lost. All mods can see them still and the reasons given for their deletion. Deleted posts can be restored at anytime. I find the starting of this thread to be totally out of line, however, I am not unwilling to discuss the issue, but as for Entmoot, no, it is not a free country. I made a moderating call and deleted posts at my descretion which is reserved to the rights of the staff. You do not have to agree with it, but it would be nice if you appreciated the job we do. __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-14-2005, 04:30 PM	#6
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	<stands and claps>

02-14-2005, 04:40 PM	#8
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	Entmoot isn't even a country! Since the post is apparently still on record, if you guys liked it so much, can't SGH just PM it back to inked and have him post it in a thread where it isn't off topic? __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

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