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Old 08-21-2003, 08:56 AM   #1
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Favourite human hero in The Sil

There were many herioc men during the first age, but my favourite would have to be Hurin.

He is not the typical "tall" blonde, stereotype normally associated with Tolkien's heroes and he comes across as being very noble and lacking in ego (especially alongside the ridiculous Morwen).

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Can't stand Tuor! Prefer Turin, even if he did cause more trouble tha he was worth!

Don't ask me why but Tuor just comes across as being a bit too perfect and everything just seems to fall onto his lap. Idril, for example, he'd hardly been in Gondolin five minutes and already he was able to pick out one of the most beautiful girls in Beleriand! Sickening.
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Old 08-21-2003, 09:31 AM   #2
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Probalbly Turin because I always loved his story.
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Old 08-21-2003, 09:59 AM   #3
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i personally do like Tour and i dont think everything fell into his lap the fall of Gondolin had to be trying! Turin doesnt intrest me at all for some reason i think Beren pretty cool as well
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Old 08-21-2003, 10:19 AM   #4
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Though he doesn't seem to be very nice of character and could result rather unfriendly, since I read The Wanderings of Hurin, I'm very impressed with him too. A simple gaze of him would put his enemies to run.
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Old 08-21-2003, 12:27 PM   #5
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Húrin, certainly. I haven't finished all of "The Wanderings of Húrin", but combined with the texts found in the Silmarillion he is definetly my favorite.
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Old 08-22-2003, 01:52 AM   #6
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I love Tuor, he's one of my all-time favorite characters. So poo on you.
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Old 08-22-2003, 12:20 PM   #7
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Heroes are so much more interesting when things go bad for them. Therefore I pick Túrin before Tuor. Definitely.

[EDIT] It just came to my mind that things didn't go really good for Húrin either . But what the heck, I stick with Túrin. Húrin just sat there imprisoned for many years and didn't do anything. Túrin had a much more interesting life.
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Old 08-22-2003, 09:30 PM   #8
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I did not find Morwen to be ridiculious.

I did like the character or, maybe I should say, the story that revolved around the character of Turin. Of course, he was prideful and although under a curse, I believe he caused much of his own misfortune.

Not too fond of many of the Human males of the First Age.
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Old 08-22-2003, 11:29 PM   #9
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From The Lays of Beleriand: The Lay of the Children of Húrin
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Then Húrin answered, Hithlum's chieftain --
his shining eyes with sheen of fire
in wrath were reddened: 'O ruinous one,
by fear unfettered I have fought thee long,
nor dread thee now, nor thy demon slaves,
fiends and phantoms, thou foe of Gods! '
His dark tresses, drenched and tangled,
that fell o'er his face he flung backward,
in the eye he looked of the evil Lord --
since that day of dread to dare his glance
has no mortal Man had might of soul.
Húrin of course.
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Old 08-23-2003, 03:55 AM   #10
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This thread has many similarities with Maedhros's Greatest of Edain thread.
It's worth checking out.
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Old 08-23-2003, 04:20 AM   #11
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Hurin? Pah. Gimme Turin any day of the week.
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Old 08-23-2003, 05:27 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Not too fond of many of the Human males of the First Age.
I suppose in an age with a certain Elf named Finrod, all other males naturally fail to impress...

Personally my favorite is Tuor, partially because the connection with Gondolin but still. He's the only man that is counted among the Elves.

Túrin is too much dark and brooding for my taste.
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Old 08-24-2003, 01:53 AM   #13
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Tuor, he's the son of a fallen hero and savior of both races. Though when it came down to it not a lot of people listened to him.

Second would be Hurin. He defied Morgoth to his face.
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Old 08-24-2003, 04:23 AM   #14
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Still Húrin for me I think. And lately I've become more and more impressed by Morwen. She was strong, fearless and faithful.
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Old 08-24-2003, 04:08 PM   #15
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Beren and Hurin.but I also like Haleth.she was relly strong woman
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:23 PM   #16
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I don't really know. Beren is a favourite of mine, of course, but after that quote about Hurin - Thank you Maedhros! - I'm leaning a bit over that way too. Not too keen on Turin, but the thing is: none of it was really his fault, except for pride. Not his fault he married his sister, or anything. Poor bloke.
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Old 08-27-2003, 02:40 PM   #17
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Hurin? Pah. Gimme Turin any day of the week.
Let's see:
From the Appendix of the Narn:
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For fear of that helm all foes avoided him, and thus it was that he came off unhurt from that deadly field. It was thus that he came back to Nargothrond wearing the Dragon-helm, and Glaurung, desiring to rid Túrin of its aid and protection (since he himself feared it), taunted him, saying that surely Túrin claimed to be his vassal and retainer, since he bore his master's likeness on the crest of his helm.
But Túrin answered: "Thou liest, and knowest it. For this image was made in scorn of thee; and while there one to bear it doubt shall ever assail thee, lest the bearer deal thee thy doom."
"Then it must await a master of another name," said Glaurung; "for Túrin son of Húrin I do not fear. Otherwise is it. For he has not the hardihood to look me in the face, openly."
And indeed so great was the terror of the Dragon that Túrin dared not look straight upon his eye, but had kept the visor of his helmet down, shielding his face, and in his parley had looked no higher than Glaurung's feet. But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye.
So we have Túrin who was afraid and daunted by the eyes of Glaurung, a mere vassal of Morgoth, while Thalion the Steadfast look at Morgoth's eyes undaunted.

And Túrin is greater than Húrin? Hehe.
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As an adjective American is:
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2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
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A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 08-27-2003, 05:06 PM   #18
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At what point did I say GREATEST? Where does it say GREATEST in the thread title?
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:33 PM   #19
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At what point did I say GREATEST? Where does it say GREATEST in the thread title?
Better? Pah. Weaker in might of soul? Yes. Killing his friend with a sword? Yes.
Túrin over Húrin? Pah, Pah.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 08-27-2003, 08:31 PM   #20
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At least Turin wasn't stupid enough to go and get himself ensnared by Morgoth. You could almost say that the Doom of Turin was Hurin's fault.

Pah, pah, pah.
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