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Old 02-07-2003, 02:32 AM   #1
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Which Elves searched for Elwe?

The Nandor? or The Sindar?
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Old 02-07-2003, 09:53 AM   #2
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I think it was the sindar...the nador were under the leadership of Lenwe weren't they?
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Old 02-07-2003, 09:55 AM   #3
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I think it was the sindar...the nador were under the leadership of Lenwe weren't they?
I think so but I don't have the book to hand. I think it was the sindar though. This is going to bug me all day now!
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Old 02-07-2003, 10:50 AM   #4
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IIRC, the Nandor forsook the great march east of the river Anduin, and stayed there for a long time, while Elwe led his host into Beleriand. It was Elwe's folk that sought for him.
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Old 02-07-2003, 07:03 PM   #5
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Tak!
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She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

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Old 02-08-2003, 04:01 AM   #6
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Oooh very nice afro-elf 'Tak' is Danish though, and 'Takk' is Norwegian.
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Old 02-08-2003, 05:25 AM   #7
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The nandor had not yet become a distinct people group at this time, I believe. Nor had the sindar. It was the third kindred that searched for him-they were made up of what would one day be the nandor, the sindar, the laiquendai, and the teleri. Avari too, but they had already split off.
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Old 02-08-2003, 09:49 AM   #8
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The nandor had not yet become a distinct people group at this time, I believe. Nor had the sindar. It was the third kindred that searched for him-they were made up of what would one day be the nandor, the sindar, the laiquendai, and the teleri. Avari too, but they had already split off.
Originally though, they were all Telerin, right?
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Old 02-08-2003, 12:27 PM   #9
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The Nador were still on the far side of two moutains ranges at that time, The Blue and The Misty. It was his relative, retainers and friends among the Teleri (this group LATER got the name Sindar) who searched for him.
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Old 02-09-2003, 01:09 AM   #10
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Which Elves searched for Elwe?
The dumb ones. If you think about it, he was not the best king. So, it would have not been a bad thing is he had remain lost.
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Old 02-09-2003, 01:15 AM   #11
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OMG, I love that reply.

How I wish Nolendil was here to read this.
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Old 02-09-2003, 08:38 AM   #12
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SGH, do you love Finrod as much as you hate Thingol?
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Old 02-09-2003, 11:12 AM   #13
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SGH, do you love Finrod as much as you hate Thingol?
Sure, even more.
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Old 02-09-2003, 05:35 PM   #14
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Sure, even more.
Well, I sure knew that! But tell me, do you think Melian was stupid to love Thingol? Duped? Or what? She was a Maia after all...
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Old 02-09-2003, 05:36 PM   #15
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Oooh very nice afro-elf 'Tak' is Danish though, and 'Takk' is Norwegian.
And 'tak' is also 'branch' in Dutch which is why you had me wondering about that peculiar answer for a while.

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The dumb ones. If you think about it, he was not the best king. So, it would have not been a bad thing is he had remain lost.
You're really not very fond on Thingol, aren't you?
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Old 02-09-2003, 08:17 PM   #16
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You're really not very fond on Thingol, aren't you?
He didn't have the courtesy of speaking with the first son of the first prince of the Ñoldor, so No.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 02-10-2003, 12:21 AM   #17
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Well, I sure knew that! But tell me, do you think Melian was stupid to love Thingol? Duped? Or what? She was a Maia after all...
Yeah, she was stupid Kirinki, but love is blind. What can I say?
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Old 02-10-2003, 02:36 AM   #18
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He didn't have the courtesy of speaking with the first son of the first prince of the Ñoldor, so No.
Tis' surely not your only reason with the Kinslaying and all.

( Please note I am not a big Thingol fan myself )
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Old 02-10-2003, 11:53 AM   #19
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Tis' surely not your only reason with the Kinslaying and all.
Thingol didn't know about it at that time.
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Who in their right mind would?
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 02-10-2003, 12:29 PM   #20
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Hmm, maybe because he murdered his kindred...
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