The Language of the Ents

WallRocker · 11-08-2002, 01:04 AM

Does anyone know where I could find a place to learn the Language oif the Ents(EntSpeak, I believe it is called) I love the Ents, and I'd like to learn some of their laguage, no matter how long it takes to say it!

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-08-2002, 11:00 PM

Hi, Wallrocker: A good question, but I'm not sure that language was ever developed very much. Of course, the only works I've read that mention Ents are the LoTR and Silmarillion, so keep looking, but in Appendix F to LoTR, Tolkien says that no one but an Ent could learn it and also:

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The strange words and names that the Hobbits record as used by Treebeard and other Ents are thus Elvish, or fragments of Elf-speech strung together in Ent-fashion (footnote: Except where the Hobbits seem to have made some attempts to represent the shorter murmurs and calls made by the Ents; a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lindor-burúme also is not Elvish, and is the only extant (probably very inaccurate) attempt to represent a fragment of actual Entish.

Philia · 11-09-2002, 12:15 AM

try www.engine54.com and type in keywords like "Ents" "tolkien" and "tolkien languages", it is bound to come up.

WallRocker · 11-09-2002, 12:24 AM

Thanks! Lady of Ithilien, I didn't even remember that section about the Ents lanuage from the books.

Ñólendil · 11-09-2002, 05:34 AM

You cannot learn the language of the Ents. It was impossible for J. R. R. Tolkien to devise, let alone for any to speak. The renditions that appear in The Lord of the Rings are supposed to be inaccurate representations of half-remembered sounds. You can read about the language here though.

Even with Quenya -- the language of which we know most about -- one cannot speak fluently. We do not have enough vocabulary.

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-09-2002, 09:11 PM

You're welcome, WallRocker. It's too bad, really. Something about that language -- all the "hooms," "booms" and "burarums" -- is very satisfying at a deep level, and certainly very expressive. It would be great to somehow speak it. Also, Treebeard and Quickbeam were among my favorite characters.

Guess we will have to stake out our favorite tree or at least the most "hasty-looking" one we can find, sit down, and listen very, very hard (and hope passersby don't ask what we're doing).

Silje · 11-10-2002, 07:34 AM

I don't think that enish is very easy to learn. Wasn't is so that every word was as long as is had existed. If you should say your name, you'd had to say your whole lifestory.
But it would be kind of cool with an entish poem.

Renille · 11-10-2002, 02:42 PM

You could only speak in entish if you had all day...they must have really loved words. I was wondering...did elves or ents invent entish? I remember Treebeard saying that the elves gave them the power of speech, but who invented it?

By the way, Lady of Ithilen, what a good idea. I think I'll do that today...only it's raining.

11-08-2002, 01:04 AM	#1
WallRocker Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: At the computer... Posts: 376	The Language of the Ents Does anyone know where I could find a place to learn the Language oif the Ents(EntSpeak, I believe it is called) I love the Ents, and I'd like to learn some of their laguage, no matter how long it takes to say it!

11-09-2002, 12:15 AM	#3
Philia Enting Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 57	try www.engine54.com and type in keywords like "Ents" "tolkien" and "tolkien languages", it is bound to come up. __________________ Nothing is as real as a dream. The world can change around you, but your dream will not. Responsibilities need not erase it. Duties need not obscure it. Because the dream is within you, no one can take it away. --Unknown What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. --Ralph Waldo Emerson Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant. --Robert Louis Stevenson Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools. --Unknown Love your enemies. It really pisses them off! --Unknown Age does not protect you from love. But love, to some extent, protects you from age. --Jeanne Moreau, French Actress We are never so helplessly unhappy as when we lose love. --Sigmund Freud

11-09-2002, 05:34 AM	#5
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	You cannot learn the language of the Ents. It was impossible for J. R. R. Tolkien to devise, let alone for any to speak. The renditions that appear in The Lord of the Rings are supposed to be inaccurate representations of half-remembered sounds. You can read about the language here though. Even with Quenya -- the language of which we know most about -- one cannot speak fluently. We do not have enough vocabulary. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan Last edited by Ñólendil : 11-09-2002 at 05:35 AM.

11-10-2002, 02:42 PM	#8
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	You could only speak in entish if you had all day...they must have really loved words. I was wondering...did elves or ents invent entish? I remember Treebeard saying that the elves gave them the power of speech, but who invented it? By the way, Lady of Ithilen, what a good idea. I think I'll do that today...only it's raining. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

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11-09-2002, 12:24 AM	#4
WallRocker Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: At the computer... Posts: 376	Thanks! Lady of Ithilien, I didn't even remember that section about the Ents lanuage from the books.

11-09-2002, 09:11 PM	#6
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	You're welcome, WallRocker. It's too bad, really. Something about that language -- all the "hooms," "booms" and "burarums" -- is very satisfying at a deep level, and certainly very expressive. It would be great to somehow speak it. Also, Treebeard and Quickbeam were among my favorite characters. Guess we will have to stake out our favorite tree or at least the most "hasty-looking" one we can find, sit down, and listen very, very hard (and hope passersby don't ask what we're doing).

11-10-2002, 07:34 AM	#7
Silje Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 22	I don't think that enish is very easy to learn. Wasn't is so that every word was as long as is had existed. If you should say your name, you'd had to say your whole lifestory. But it would be kind of cool with an entish poem.