Why we should all Thank Melkor

Archbob the Elder · 08-06-2002, 03:39 PM

Besides Illuvatar, Melkor is the most important person in middle earth.

Think about it, if it wasn't for Melkor who made things evil and stole the Jewels and all, there would be no Similarion, and there would be no Sauron so there would be Lord of the Rings.

Thats right! Its all Melkor's labour that we have these stories. IJf it wasn't for him, then middle earth would just be boring and no one wants to read books where everything's peaceful and everyone loves each other cause whats the point in that?

So Praise Melkor, the greatest of the Valar!

Khadrane · 08-07-2002, 08:09 PM

I didn't think Melkor was technically a Vala. Was he?

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-07-2002, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Khadrane
I didn't think Melkor was technically a Vala. Was he?

Technically he was a Vala, and the most powerful of them, but when he tried to usurp the throne of Manwe, and seek the Impersihable Flame, he was no longer counted among them.

Archbob the Elder · 08-07-2002, 11:40 PM

He was the greatest of the Valar. So what if he was a little not-nice. I mean you guys all misunderstand him. Without him, there would be no point to middle-earth. Beren and Luthen would have never gotten married if he hadn't stolen the jewels.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-08-2002, 01:25 AM

Yeah, Morgoth was a sweetheart.

Findegil · 08-08-2002, 07:49 AM

It is no question that any operation of one of the Ainur in the music and in the world it self led in the end to higher glorry of Eru's creation.
So in that way Melkor was only the tool through which Eru's ultimate will worked to his owne glorry.

Respectfully
Findegil

Rána Eressëa · 08-08-2002, 08:24 AM

Yeah - without evil, we ain't got nothing good!

Archbob the Elder · 08-08-2002, 12:47 PM

See, Melkor suffered banishment because he wanted to make middle-earth interesting, not because he was evil.

Ñólendil · 08-08-2002, 07:34 PM

Well, he made a good story alright, but I would rather have a perfect world free from evil and suffering.

Faramir · 08-08-2002, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Well, he made a good story alright, but I would rather have a perfect world free from evil and suffering.

As much as he made a good story, I'd have to agree with Nolendil.

Christiana · 08-08-2002, 08:56 PM

me to.

Archbob the Elder · 08-08-2002, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Well, he made a good story alright, but I would rather have a perfect world free from evil and suffering.

That would be boring and the world would never advance. The fastest periods of scientific developments on earth are during wars. Without suffering and war, we'd be a bunch of weaklings. Well, actually, I prefer not too much suffering and war either but I'm sure glad that Lord of the Rings had Melkor.

Faramir · 08-09-2002, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by Archbob the Elder

That would be boring and the world would never advance. The fastest periods of scientific developments on earth are during wars. Without suffering and war, we'd be a bunch of weaklings. Well, actually, I prefer not too much suffering and war either but I'm sure glad that Lord of the Rings had Melkor.

You heartless wretch!

It wouldn't matter if we were weaklings if we didn't have war. I' rather have peace and be weak then have thousands of men and women who have families die to protect us.

cassiopeia · 08-09-2002, 05:19 AM

I don't think we should thank Melkor for slaughtering the innocent creatures of Arda, but I think he was one of the most important umm, creature (besides Eru). What is the flame imperishable, I can't remember what it is

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-09-2002, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by cassiopeia
I don't think we should thank Melkor for slaughtering the innocent creatures of Arda, but I think he was one of the most important umm, creature (besides Eru). What is the flame imperishable, I can't remember what it is

The creating Spirit of Iluvatar, by which the Valar, Maiar, and Ea were made. It is with Iluvatar alone.

Blackheart · 08-09-2002, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Archbob the Elder
Besides Illuvatar, Melkor is the most important person in middle earth.

Think about it, if it wasn't for Melkor who made things evil and stole the Jewels and all, there would be no Similarion, and there would be no Sauron so there would be Lord of the Rings.

Thats right! Its all Melkor's labour that we have these stories. IJf it wasn't for him, then middle earth would just be boring and no one wants to read books where everything's peaceful and everyone loves each other cause whats the point in that?

So Praise Melkor, the greatest of the Valar!

Preaching to the choir baby. Preachin to da choir.

Blackheart · 08-09-2002, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Well, he made a good story alright, but I would rather have a perfect world free from evil and suffering.

Please. Kill me now. Before I SUFFER from Boredom!

Archbob the Elder · 08-09-2002, 04:57 PM

I think bordem is only of the reasons fighting breaks out in the troubled parts of the world. I mean think about it, they are not very educated, they don't have computer games, no internet, they aren't told how to play chess or enjoy good literature. I mean, what can they do for fun besides fight?

I know, I'm heartless.

Christiana · 08-09-2002, 09:04 PM

if melkor hadnt been,there might still b elves!

Ñólendil · 08-10-2002, 02:29 AM

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I think bordem is only of the reasons fighting breaks out in the troubled parts of the world. I mean think about it, they are not very educated, they don't have computer games, no internet, they aren't told how to play chess or enjoy good literature. I mean, what can they do for fun besides fight?

It's entirely besides your point, which is humorous, but chess was invented in India thousands of years ago.

08-06-2002, 03:39 PM	#1
Archbob the Elder Enting Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 77	Why we should all Thank Melkor Besides Illuvatar, Melkor is the most important person in middle earth. Think about it, if it wasn't for Melkor who made things evil and stole the Jewels and all, there would be no Similarion, and there would be no Sauron so there would be Lord of the Rings. Thats right! Its all Melkor's labour that we have these stories. IJf it wasn't for him, then middle earth would just be boring and no one wants to read books where everything's peaceful and everyone loves each other cause whats the point in that? So Praise Melkor, the greatest of the Valar! __________________ Get Free Stuff

08-07-2002, 08:09 PM	#2
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	I didn't think Melkor was technically a Vala. Was he? __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

08-07-2002, 11:40 PM	#4
Archbob the Elder Enting Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 77	He was the greatest of the Valar. So what if he was a little not-nice. I mean you guys all misunderstand him. Without him, there would be no point to middle-earth. Beren and Luthen would have never gotten married if he hadn't stolen the jewels. __________________ Get Free Stuff

08-08-2002, 12:47 PM	#8
Archbob the Elder Enting Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 77	See, Melkor suffered banishment because he wanted to make middle-earth interesting, not because he was evil. __________________ Get Free Stuff

08-08-2002, 07:34 PM	#9
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Well, he made a good story alright, but I would rather have a perfect world free from evil and suffering. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-08-2002, 01:25 AM	#5
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Yeah, Morgoth was a sweetheart.

08-08-2002, 07:49 AM	#6
Findegil Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Geilenkirchen, Germany Posts: 192	It is no question that any operation of one of the Ainur in the music and in the world it self led in the end to higher glorry of Eru's creation. So in that way Melkor was only the tool through which Eru's ultimate will worked to his owne glorry. Respectfully Findegil

08-08-2002, 08:24 AM	#7
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Yeah - without evil, we ain't got nothing good!

08-08-2002, 08:56 PM	#11
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	me to. __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

08-09-2002, 05:19 AM	#14
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I don't think we should thank Melkor for slaughtering the innocent creatures of Arda, but I think he was one of the most important umm, creature (besides Eru). What is the flame imperishable, I can't remember what it is __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

08-09-2002, 04:57 PM	#18
Archbob the Elder Enting Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 77	I think bordem is only of the reasons fighting breaks out in the troubled parts of the world. I mean think about it, they are not very educated, they don't have computer games, no internet, they aren't told how to play chess or enjoy good literature. I mean, what can they do for fun besides fight? I know, I'm heartless. __________________ Get Free Stuff

08-09-2002, 09:04 PM	#19
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	if melkor hadnt been,there might still b elves! __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

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