How are wights made?

Elvellon · 01-19-2002, 07:25 PM

This topic is not new, but since I don’t chare the opinion posted in the other thread in this Forum I’m asking now what do you think about it
We know that the rings of power could transform living men in wraiths. These creatures were of human origin and, most likely, more powerful that the barrow-wights were. It is also known that the Witch -king could transform an unwilling victim into a wraithlike creature under his control using Morgul knifes. So, is it possible that wights are created much in the same way? As I see, the barrow-whight that imprisoned Frodo was probably duplicating the process by it was created, what do you think?

Biscuit · 01-20-2002, 11:24 AM

Try reading Micheal Martinez's essay "Kryptic tales of Middle Earth" at suite 101.com

Elvellon · 01-20-2002, 12:20 PM

Thanks, I just did, but unfortunattly didn’t found an explanation of how and from whom are wights created.

afro-elf · 01-20-2002, 01:25 PM

Maybe we could ask Michael Jackson

Aragorn · 01-20-2002, 01:33 PM

OW!

*Does the moonwalk.*

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2002, 04:40 PM

DIE!

*clubs Michael Jackson and Aragorn*

Elvellon · 01-21-2002, 09:11 AM

(Shudder) I’m picturing a very disturbing image… Michael Jackson as the Barrow-wight singing to Frodo and the other hobbits that he is bad, a smooth criminal and is going to give them the thriller of their lives …(Shudder).

Elvellon · 01-21-2002, 09:14 AM

…and a really scary idea… each cloaked black rider a Michael Jackson … (Shudder)

ragamuffin92 · 01-21-2002, 11:21 AM

Hi, Elvellon--
All I have been able to find so far is that the Barrow Wights were "evil spirits out of Angmar and Rhudaur," and were sent to the Downs by the Witch King (who, at some point in his life became the chief of the Nazgul). I always thought that the Wights weren't created by Sauron & Co., Ltd, but he used them because they were available.
Re: " duplicating the process by it was created"
Quite possible. As my Gaffer used to say, "Misery loves company."
I'll keep my eyes open for any pertinent info, since I am about to read "Letters" for the first time.

Biscuit · 01-21-2002, 11:30 AM

Just so long as he doesn't have the monkey with him.

Elvellon · 01-21-2002, 01:27 PM

Thanks ragamuffin92, I don´t have Tolkien's letters.

Arathorn · 01-22-2002, 12:40 PM

Just crack a few eggs and use a strainer. But basically, it's more a chicken and egg thing.

01-19-2002, 07:25 PM	#1
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	How are wights made? This topic is not new, but since I don’t chare the opinion posted in the other thread in this Forum I’m asking now what do you think about it We know that the rings of power could transform living men in wraiths. These creatures were of human origin and, most likely, more powerful that the barrow-wights were. It is also known that the Witch -king could transform an unwilling victim into a wraithlike creature under his control using Morgul knifes. So, is it possible that wights are created much in the same way? As I see, the barrow-whight that imprisoned Frodo was probably duplicating the process by it was created, what do you think? __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion Last edited by Elvellon : 01-19-2002 at 07:26 PM.

01-20-2002, 11:24 AM	#2
Biscuit Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 8	wights Try reading Micheal Martinez's essay "Kryptic tales of Middle Earth" at suite 101.com

01-20-2002, 12:20 PM	#3
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	Thanks, I just did, but unfortunattly didn’t found an explanation of how and from whom are wights created. __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion Last edited by Elvellon : 01-20-2002 at 01:14 PM.

01-20-2002, 01:25 PM	#4
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Maybe we could ask Michael Jackson __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-20-2002, 01:33 PM	#5
Aragorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere but where I should be. Posts: 369	OW! Does the moonwalk. __________________ And they carried them to the flatlands But they died along the way And they built up with their bare hands What we still can't do today. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO till the day I die.

01-20-2002, 04:40 PM	#6
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	DIE! clubs Michael Jackson and Aragorn __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-21-2002, 09:11 AM	#7
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	(Shudder) I’m picturing a very disturbing image… Michael Jackson as the Barrow-wight singing to Frodo and the other hobbits that he is bad, a smooth criminal and is going to give them the thriller of their lives …(Shudder). __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

01-21-2002, 09:14 AM	#8
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	…and a really scary idea… each cloaked black rider a Michael Jackson … (Shudder) __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

01-21-2002, 11:21 AM	#9
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Hi, Elvellon-- All I have been able to find so far is that the Barrow Wights were "evil spirits out of Angmar and Rhudaur," and were sent to the Downs by the Witch King (who, at some point in his life became the chief of the Nazgul). I always thought that the Wights weren't created by Sauron & Co., Ltd, but he used them because they were available. Re: " duplicating the process by it was created" Quite possible. As my Gaffer used to say, "Misery loves company." I'll keep my eyes open for any pertinent info, since I am about to read "Letters" for the first time. __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-21-2002, 11:30 AM	#10
Biscuit Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 8	Just so long as he doesn't have the monkey with him.

01-21-2002, 01:27 PM	#11
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	Thanks ragamuffin92, I don´t have Tolkien's letters. __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

01-22-2002, 12:40 PM	#12
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Just crack a few eggs and use a strainer. But basically, it's more a chicken and egg thing. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

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