Interracial dating

afro-elf · 12-01-2003, 12:41 AM

What are your thoughts in general?

Does the sex of the races involved play a differences?

Does in matter which races are involves?

Starr Polish · 12-01-2003, 01:43 AM

For me as an individual, race does not matter when dating/romantic relationships/marriage is involved. Race is nothing more than physical features, and true love should transcend that. Also, race is just a color/feature, and someone with darker or lighter skin than I is no more superior or inferior.

Sadly, I think most general opinion is still at least slightly against it. I know for a fact that my stepgrandfather (mom's stepdad) is vastly against it, and thinks that people should "stay within their own kind". It sickens me.

jerseydevil · 12-01-2003, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Starr Polish
Sadly, I think most general opinion is still at least slightly against it. I know for a fact that my stepgrandfather (mom's stepdad) is vastly against it, and thinks that people should "stay within their own kind". It sickens me.

I think that is mostly older generations. I don't think most people born after the 60's or 70's think anything about it. I think it is the minority who has a problem with it.

As for me - I have no problem with it whatsoever. It doesn't matter at all.

Wayfarer · 12-01-2003, 02:30 AM

Inter... what?

Okay... So, clue me in here. Are we talking Elves and Humans, Humans and Orcs? Elves and Dwarves? Orcs and Hobbits? What? I mean, sure, not all race combinations might be viable.

Er... That's not what you mean, you say? I'm afraid I'm at a loss then. I can't possibly think of any other races that are different enough from each other to make a difference.

Dúnedain · 12-01-2003, 04:41 AM

No problem with it at all. I've been in a couple interracial relationships, one of whom I almost married. I am very attracted to other races, not that I am not attracted to white women, as I am, hehe. Color doesn't matter to me...

Lizra · 12-01-2003, 07:50 AM

Thank goodness times have changed. This kind of question could easily make people freak out 50 years ago.

Ruinel · 12-01-2003, 01:41 PM

Sort of on topic but not really. One of my friends in college once showed me a picture of her mom, who was white. We had chemistry classes through Organic Chemistry together, that's three semesters we were friends. And she didn't show me the picture or tell me her mom was white until the middle of Organic Chemistry. I asked her why she never had never mentioned it or anything, because she talked about her family often. She said she wasn't sure how I'd react. We'd been friends through thick and thin, long nights studying and labs that barely produced the right results, I'd even supported her when she got braid extentions ($200 and 4 hours of sitting in a chair) and they were so tight they gave her headaches and she got clippers and cut them out, buzzing her hair down close to her scalp. So I found it odd that she was afraid of my response. Why would I even have a problem with who her parents were?

To answer your question, AE: I personally find men in general attractive (I'd say more, but the kiddies are around). I mean, it doesn't matter what flavor they are, so long as they're tasty.

hehehe

Kinda like ice cream, you know if it's a good flavor only after you've taken your first lick.

Dúnedain · 12-01-2003, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
I personally find men in general attractive (I'd say more, but the kiddies are around). I mean, it doesn't matter what flavor they are, so long as they're tasty. hehehe Kinda like ice cream, you know if it's a good flavor only after you've taken your first lick.

*runs to a cold shower*

Insidious Rex · 12-01-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
Why would I even have a problem with who her parents were?

well why did you ask her why she hadnt told you in the first place exactly? if you asked me (and Im mixed race) i would stare at you blankly and say well i never really thought i had to. same reason you dont tell me hey! hey! did you know?! did you know?! both my parents are white!! (assuming they are) ok.. who cares?

But I get your point though. It shouldnt matter at all and its good it doesnt to you. as for inter racial relationships im all for mixing of the gene pool!

them more the better in my opinion. variety is the spice of life. and race doesnt exist anyway. just preference.

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Kinda like ice cream, you know if it's a good flavor only after you've taken your first lick.

well you know what they say. once youve tried chocolate....

Ruinel · 12-01-2003, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
well why did you ask her why she hadnt told you in the first place exactly?

It was because she had shown me pics of her siblings and her dad, but never her mom.

And it sort of hurt me that she thought I'd have a strange reaction to it. After all, I considered us friends.

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well you know what they say. once youve tried chocolate....

ACK!!... must... control... self... must... be ... good she-Elf..... must NOt... corrupt... the young.... ACK!!!

BeardofPants · 12-01-2003, 06:56 PM

You're not a big fan of subtle flavour are ya?

I think I must be biased against different races, because I haven't slept with an alien yet. *farty noises*

Ornelírë Mistë · 12-01-2003, 08:09 PM

Nothing against it. The Color of Water is an interesting read.

***gdl96*** · 12-01-2003, 10:12 PM

Nah, race doesn't matter to me, although I do consider some races more attractive in general. But that's just personal preference.

GrayMouser · 12-02-2003, 12:19 PM

My wife is Taiwan aborigine (Austronesian) , so personally I don't have a problem.

But what about general perceptions? I've always had a case of Yellow Fever; I remember travelling around Asia with a friend who was fairly indifferent to Oriental women, but totally went into heat in India- whose women as such don't particularly attract me- but then I'm not into busty blondes either.

Where does it come from ? Why do some people have attractions to particular racial types?

jerseydevil · 12-02-2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by GrayMouser

But what about general perceptions? I've always had a case of Yellow Fever; I remember travelling around Asia with a friend who was fairly indifferent to Oriental women, but totally went into heat in India- whose women as such don't particularly attract me- but then I'm not into busty blondes either.

It's funny that you say oriental. This sort of belongs in the PC thread - but i figured I'd point it out here. The PC crowd says that you shouldn't call people oriental - oriental is only for inanimate objects. People are to be referred to as Asian. They claims Asians consider it offensive to be called Orientals.

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Where does it come from ? Why do some people have attractions to particular racial types?

I think it's the same reason why some people are attracted to long hair, or brown hair over blond, or any other attribute - it's just personal preference.

Dúnedain · 12-02-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
It's funny that you say oriental. This sort of belongs in the PC thread - but i figured I'd point it out here. The PC crowd says that you shouldn't call people oriental - oriental is only for inanimate objects. People are to be referred to as Asian. They claims Asians consider it offensive to be called Orientals.

I'm sure he would know, as he said he is married to a woman from Taiwan...

Elf Girl · 12-02-2003, 05:58 PM

*sigh* A white friend of mine was dating a black guy... she really loved him and wanted to marry him, but her mother was against interracial marriage. So out of respect for her mother they didn't get married. And then he died and now she wishes they had gotten married while they still could.

Sorry. I guess it was kinda OT but the thread reminded me of it.

afro-elf · 12-02-2003, 07:51 PM

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A white friend of mine was dating a black guy... she really loved him and wanted to marry him

You where born in 1990. I assume your friend was quite a bit older than you .

afro-elf · 12-02-2003, 07:56 PM

Something that I do find interesting is that I have never had a "good" relationship with a an American woman. The best relationships have all been born elsewhere.

Maybe too much of this

......The two American men are contemplating suicide because the American woman will not shut up and complains relentlessly about her body, the true nature of feminism, what the sun is doing to her skin, how she can do anything they can do, the necessity of fulfillment, the equal division of household chores, how sand and palm trees make her look fat, how her last boyfriend respected her opinions and treated her a lot better than they do, and how her relationship with her mother is the cause of all her problems, and why didn't they bring a cell phone with them so they could call 911 and get them all rescued from this godforsaken deserted island in the middle of nowhere... so she can get her nails done and go shopping.

afro-elf · 12-02-2003, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Ebony at Sf Fandom

I think it's wise that people be in the same 'place' in their lives. For example, if someone has grown children and gets involved with someone who has not yet begun a family, it could be just asking for trouble. I believe that when you have a relationship with someone, you should try to bring as few obstacles with you as possible. People should have as much in common as they can. I think this also applies to different cultures, religions, and values, and I speak particularly when entering a marriage. I believe that couples have a hard enough time getting over the differences they have without throwing extra ones into the pot. When people are young they think love will overcome all. But it doesn't. It gets stale, and the man that used to set your blood boiling just by looking your way suddenly can seem like an obnoxious pain in the tushy, or at the very least, you find you're suddenly living with your brother. So you and your 'brother' had best have as much in common as possible. JHMO.

Interesting post. Though I do know a few people who have not succombed to

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It gets stale, and the man that used to set your blood boiling just by looking your way suddenly can seem like an obnoxious pain in the tushy, or at the very least, you find you're suddenly living with your brother.

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Maybe it is because they have followed the the advice in the former part her post.

12-01-2003, 12:41 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Interracial dating What are your thoughts in general? Does the sex of the races involved play a differences? Does in matter which races are involves? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

12-01-2003, 01:43 AM	#2
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	For me as an individual, race does not matter when dating/romantic relationships/marriage is involved. Race is nothing more than physical features, and true love should transcend that. Also, race is just a color/feature, and someone with darker or lighter skin than I is no more superior or inferior. Sadly, I think most general opinion is still at least slightly against it. I know for a fact that my stepgrandfather (mom's stepdad) is vastly against it, and thinks that people should "stay within their own kind". It sickens me. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

12-01-2003, 02:30 AM	#4
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Inter... what? Okay... So, clue me in here. Are we talking Elves and Humans, Humans and Orcs? Elves and Dwarves? Orcs and Hobbits? What? I mean, sure, not all race combinations might be viable. Er... That's not what you mean, you say? I'm afraid I'm at a loss then. I can't possibly think of any other races that are different enough from each other to make a difference. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-01-2003, 04:41 AM	#5
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	No problem with it at all. I've been in a couple interracial relationships, one of whom I almost married. I am very attracted to other races, not that I am not attracted to white women, as I am, hehe. Color doesn't matter to me... __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

12-01-2003, 07:50 AM	#6
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Thank goodness times have changed. This kind of question could easily make people freak out 50 years ago. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

12-01-2003, 01:41 PM	#7
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Sort of on topic but not really. One of my friends in college once showed me a picture of her mom, who was white. We had chemistry classes through Organic Chemistry together, that's three semesters we were friends. And she didn't show me the picture or tell me her mom was white until the middle of Organic Chemistry. I asked her why she never had never mentioned it or anything, because she talked about her family often. She said she wasn't sure how I'd react. We'd been friends through thick and thin, long nights studying and labs that barely produced the right results, I'd even supported her when she got braid extentions ($200 and 4 hours of sitting in a chair) and they were so tight they gave her headaches and she got clippers and cut them out, buzzing her hair down close to her scalp. So I found it odd that she was afraid of my response. Why would I even have a problem with who her parents were? To answer your question, AE: I personally find men in general attractive (I'd say more, but the kiddies are around). I mean, it doesn't matter what flavor they are, so long as they're tasty. hehehe Kinda like ice cream, you know if it's a good flavor only after you've taken your first lick.

12-01-2003, 06:56 PM	#11
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	You're not a big fan of subtle flavour are ya? I think I must be biased against different races, because I haven't slept with an alien yet. farty noises __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

12-01-2003, 08:09 PM	#12
Ornelírë Mistë Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Nothing against it. The Color of Water is an interesting read. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

12-01-2003, 10:12 PM	#13
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Nah, race doesn't matter to me, although I do consider some races more attractive in general. But that's just personal preference.

12-02-2003, 12:19 PM	#14
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	My wife is Taiwan aborigine (Austronesian) , so personally I don't have a problem. But what about general perceptions? I've always had a case of Yellow Fever; I remember travelling around Asia with a friend who was fairly indifferent to Oriental women, but totally went into heat in India- whose women as such don't particularly attract me- but then I'm not into busty blondes either. Where does it come from ? Why do some people have attractions to particular racial types? __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

12-02-2003, 05:58 PM	#17
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	sigh A white friend of mine was dating a black guy... she really loved him and wanted to marry him, but her mother was against interracial marriage. So out of respect for her mother they didn't get married. And then he died and now she wishes they had gotten married while they still could. Sorry. I guess it was kinda OT but the thread reminded me of it. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

12-02-2003, 07:56 PM	#19
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Something that I do find interesting is that I have never had a "good" relationship with a an American woman. The best relationships have all been born elsewhere. Maybe too much of this ......The two American men are contemplating suicide because the American woman will not shut up and complains relentlessly about her body, the true nature of feminism, what the sun is doing to her skin, how she can do anything they can do, the necessity of fulfillment, the equal division of household chores, how sand and palm trees make her look fat, how her last boyfriend respected her opinions and treated her a lot better than they do, and how her relationship with her mother is the cause of all her problems, and why didn't they bring a cell phone with them so they could call 911 and get them all rescued from this godforsaken deserted island in the middle of nowhere... so she can get her nails done and go shopping. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

12-02-2003, 08:18 PM	#20
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Originally posted by Ebony at Sf Fandom I think it's wise that people be in the same 'place' in their lives. For example, if someone has grown children and gets involved with someone who has not yet begun a family, it could be just asking for trouble. I believe that when you have a relationship with someone, you should try to bring as few obstacles with you as possible. People should have as much in common as they can. I think this also applies to different cultures, religions, and values, and I speak particularly when entering a marriage. I believe that couples have a hard enough time getting over the differences they have without throwing extra ones into the pot. When people are young they think love will overcome all. But it doesn't. It gets stale, and the man that used to set your blood boiling just by looking your way suddenly can seem like an obnoxious pain in the tushy, or at the very least, you find you're suddenly living with your brother. So you and your 'brother' had best have as much in common as possible. JHMO. Interesting post. Though I do know a few people who have not succombed to quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It gets stale, and the man that used to set your blood boiling just by looking your way suddenly can seem like an obnoxious pain in the tushy, or at the very least, you find you're suddenly living with your brother. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe it is because they have followed the the advice in the former part her post. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

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