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Old 12-18-2003, 07:29 AM   #1
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where's Saruman??

First of all CONGRATULATIONS TO PETER JACKSON
For a marvelous adapptation of rotk. i enjoyed it imensly but i find myself asking where's saruman???

"We just thought that the saruman scene, which is a great one, felt like we were finishing off events from the previous film"

"The Saruman scene is only seven minutes long, all of the actors saw some of their scenes cut"PJ interview taken from the mail on sunday.

i think this was a mistake, i believe that the voice of saruman scene was a very important event in the story. i see it as the turning point in the fortune of all, and gives the men of rohan the confidence they need to ride to Minas Tirith.

i also think that seven minutes on the end of ttt would have done wonders to the reputation of the film which i gather many people consider to be the weakest of the three.

what do you think??????????
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:11 AM   #2
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I haven't seen the film yet but i heard on Newsround that all of Sarumans scenes had been cut out.The they said that the actor who played him was quite shocked ad annoyed about it.
I think they shoud have had him in because he's a very important character,even in the third book.
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Old 12-18-2003, 11:43 AM   #3
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I really enjoyed the end of TTT- the three plotlines were incorporated together and wrapped up so well that I was unsure whether dealing with Saruman would be a distraction. After seeing the extended edition, though, and how Jackson worked in Merry and Pippin's lovely "Flotsam and Jetsom" moments, I think Saruman could have been done very well.
I still think, though, that he would fit in just as well in Return of the King. Rather than being old baggage, the palantir moves the plot forward significantly. I would have much preferred Saruman's scene to the Smeagol/Deagol flashback, which, though very good, was less necessary than other plot elements that got cut.
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Old 12-18-2003, 11:54 AM   #4
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I just finished watching ROTK and it is sooooooo good! But, I think that one of the things that they could have put in was the part with Saruman and Wromtongue in the shire, but perhaps it was already too long at the end anyway.
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Old 12-20-2003, 09:53 PM   #5
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think: you really think scouring of shire would have worked?

After 3 1/2 hours - ppl were getting very.......uh ready to go home.

It would have been at least 30 minutes longer (probably 40) if it had scouring of shire and wouldn't make that much sense in the context of the movie. Or atleast to people that had not read the book.
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Old 12-21-2003, 12:09 AM   #6
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Regarding the Scouring: I don't have the EE of FotR. Did they show Galadriel's gift to Sam? If they did it wouldn't have made much sense as there was nothing to rebuild.
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Old 12-21-2003, 12:45 AM   #7
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i would've enjoyed the scouring, but today when i went people kept yawning and sighing when they thought the movie was about to end and it didn't, so it might've been too long. =/
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Old 12-21-2003, 04:27 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by Elvellyn
Regarding the Scouring: I don't have the EE of FotR. Did they show Galadriel's gift to Sam? If they did it wouldn't have made much sense as there was nothing to rebuild.
Sam only recieved the elvish rope, no box of dust I'm afraid. I think there is no hope for the Scouring unless PJ decides to bring all the actors and crew back to New Zealand to shoot it.
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