A Question

Helix · 12-12-2002, 05:01 PM

My friend receantly asked a really bizarre trivia question, and I don't know where to find the answer. He asks..

What was the battle cry of Malach's great-great-great-great-grandson? (that's four greats)

Malach, I think, was a Man mentioned somewhere in the Silmarillion. However, I don't remember him and certainly don't remember his family tree. Any help would be wonderful.

Nibs · 12-12-2002, 05:45 PM

A stated by http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corr...611/tolk_1.htm , the line of Malach is as follows:

Malach
Magor
Hathol
Hador
Galdor
Hurin

And Hurin's battle cry was "Aure Entuluva", which means "Day shall come again!"

Didn't take but a minute to find. And it helps that this part of the Silmarillion is my favorite. But it didn't help that, on my first try, I spelled "Tolkien" as "Tlokien". Google fixed it for me.

Nibs · 12-12-2002, 05:46 PM

Or would that be Turin? Ah, me... but at least that helps, I suppose... you can double-check that part.

Helix · 12-13-2002, 01:59 PM

Thank you much! That is very helpful... I had forgotton completely Turin's ancestry.

Falagar · 12-13-2002, 02:22 PM

Nope, it's Hurin who cries

Nibs · 12-13-2002, 03:42 PM

What I meant was, would Turin or Hurin be the great-great-great-great-grandson, though I knew that was indeed Hurin's battle-cry.

Lefty Scaevola · 12-13-2002, 04:54 PM

Hurin (Brian Reynolds) has his own web site at:

http://www.Dor-lomin.com/

(note, he is NOT the Brian Reynolds of civ2 & SMAC fame)

He has a civ2 senario there for Beleriand from Dagor Bragolach to the Niarneth.

ArwenEvenstar · 12-14-2002, 01:59 PM

my signature I think has it (the last one)

Falagar · 12-14-2002, 03:57 PM

Wasn't that Fingolfins cry when Turgon came forth from Gondolin?
Hurins cry was "Auta i lomÃ«!" (I think)

***azalea*** · 12-14-2002, 10:24 PM

I think this belongs in the Silmarillion forum, so I'm moving it there.

Ã‘Ã³lendil · 12-15-2002, 07:38 PM

Falagar, not Fingolfin (who had been killed by Morgoth), but his son Fingon. You are close with HÃºrin's cry, only it is "Aute".

Falagar · 12-17-2002, 10:13 AM

It's pretty confusing because they all start at Fin (Fingolfin, Fingon, Finarfin, FinwÃ«, Finrod, etc)

*checks Silm.*
Actually we were all wrong

Hurin's battlecry was "AurÃ« entuluva!", while the cry of Fingon (

) was "UtÃ¹lie'n aurÃ«! Ayia Eldalie ar AtaniatÃ*ri, utÃ¹lien AurÃ«!" and those who heard him's cry was "Auta i lÃ²mÃ«!"

Ã‘Ã³lendil · 12-19-2002, 01:23 AM

Eh. ... Must have last word ... hmm ... oh, yes! Your accent marks are going the wrong way! Ha! It should be "Ãº", and "Ã¡", and "Ã³". Ha!

Falagar · 12-19-2002, 11:18 AM

That's because I didn't know have to make the accentmark that way, untill now!
(Now I got the last word!

)

12-12-2002, 05:01 PM	#1
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	A Question My friend receantly asked a really bizarre trivia question, and I don't know where to find the answer. He asks.. What was the battle cry of Malach's great-great-great-great-grandson? (that's four greats) Malach, I think, was a Man mentioned somewhere in the Silmarillion. However, I don't remember him and certainly don't remember his family tree. Any help would be wonderful. __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

12-12-2002, 05:45 PM	#2
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	A stated by http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corr...611/tolk_1.htm , the line of Malach is as follows: Malach Magor Hathol Hador Galdor Hurin And Hurin's battle cry was "Aure Entuluva", which means "Day shall come again!" Didn't take but a minute to find. And it helps that this part of the Silmarillion is my favorite. But it didn't help that, on my first try, I spelled "Tolkien" as "Tlokien". Google fixed it for me. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

12-12-2002, 05:46 PM	#3
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Or would that be Turin? Ah, me... but at least that helps, I suppose... you can double-check that part. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

12-13-2002, 01:59 PM	#4
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	Thank you much! That is very helpful... I had forgotton completely Turin's ancestry. __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

12-13-2002, 02:22 PM	#5
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Nope, it's Hurin who cries __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 12-13-2002 at 02:26 PM.

12-13-2002, 03:42 PM	#6
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	What I meant was, would Turin or Hurin be the great-great-great-great-grandson, though I knew that was indeed Hurin's battle-cry. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

12-13-2002, 04:54 PM	#7
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Hurin (Brian Reynolds) has his own web site at: http://www.Dor-lomin.com/ (note, he is NOT the Brian Reynolds of civ2 & SMAC fame) He has a civ2 senario there for Beleriand from Dagor Bragolach to the Niarneth.

12-14-2002, 01:59 PM	#8
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	my signature I think has it (the last one) __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

12-14-2002, 03:57 PM	#9
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Wasn't that Fingolfins cry when Turgon came forth from Gondolin? Hurins cry was "Auta i lomÃ«!" (I think) __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

12-14-2002, 10:24 PM	#10
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I think this belongs in the Silmarillion forum, so I'm moving it there.

12-15-2002, 07:38 PM	#11
Ã‘Ã³lendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Falagar, not Fingolfin (who had been killed by Morgoth), but his son Fingon. You are close with HÃºrin's cry, only it is "Aute". __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

12-17-2002, 10:13 AM	#12
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	It's pretty confusing because they all start at Fin (Fingolfin, Fingon, Finarfin, FinwÃ«, Finrod, etc) checks Silm. Actually we were all wrong Hurin's battlecry was "AurÃ« entuluva!", while the cry of Fingon () was "UtÃ¹lie'n aurÃ«! Ayia Eldalie ar AtaniatÃri, utÃ¹lien AurÃ«!" and those who heard him's cry was "Auta i lÃ²mÃ«!" __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated* Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

12-19-2002, 01:23 AM	#13
Ã‘Ã³lendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Eh. ... Must have last word ... hmm ... oh, yes! Your accent marks are going the wrong way! Ha! It should be "Ãº", and "Ã¡", and "Ã³". Ha! __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

12-19-2002, 11:18 AM	#14
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	That's because I didn't know have to make the accentmark that way, untill now! (Now I got the last word! ) __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

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