Why PJ??? Why ... ?!?!?!

Kwijibo · 05-04-2002, 03:32 PM

Okay, so you've probably all heard by now that PJ isn't putting the Scouring of the Shire in the RotK. I read a small interview in a mag where he said that 'it wasn't essential/neccessary for the story they were creating'.

(BTW that's not quoted, I've lost the mag, so I'm going by memory)

Also, they've moved Shelob's Lair to the beginning of RotK- which I think is a crime because I really looking forward to that bit!!

AND he said that there wasn't enough material in TTT to make a film, so a lot of it will be the history of how Gollum came across the Ring.

BTW, how have so many of you seen the trailer? I haven't seen it anywhere. I know there was an early internet one, but I couldn't find it. The most I've seen of TTT are the officially released pics from New Line and two pictures of Gollum at thelandofshadow.com

It's not fair!!!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-04-2002, 03:45 PM

For the trailer on the internet, go to www.full-bloom.net/media

Although I will miss the scouring of the shire, I think it is actually best they cut it, as the story-arc for the movie is about the Ring being destroyed. Not to say I won't be sad it's gone, though!

I have no idea where TTT will end, but I thought the thing with Shelob was a perfect ending, and I'm mad they're moving it. Oh well.

Comic Book Guy · 05-04-2002, 05:37 PM

Look, some things that work in the books will not work in the Movie, take for example the Scouring, include that into a movie and it will be seen as an Anti-climax. Shelob's lair will be transferred into the Return of the King because in order to create a consistent time length for each film.

Lizra · 05-04-2002, 08:03 PM

More about Gollum, ick! That Deagol, Smeagol story has been told too many times for me. I'd rather see more tall warriors.

Renille · 05-04-2002, 09:46 PM

The only thing I have a really big problem with is Saruman being impaled on a wheel. I would MUCH rather see Wormtongue prove that he really hated Saruman by killing him. Much more to think about. Unless, of course, Wormtongue PUSHES him onto the wheel.

cassiopeia · 05-05-2002, 01:39 AM

I too think that leaving out the scouring is a crime. Does anyone have a quote?, cause I havn't seen one from PJ, just rumours. I don't mind waiting for Shelob, just more to look forward to in ROTK. I really really hope Saruman won't be impaled, but I only heard that Ian McKellan said that on some show and perhaps he was only joking. Hopefully. Please be joking. Please. Maybe Pippin or Merry could push him. At least then a hobbit will slay Saruman.
PJ cannot please everyone, but I will be happy if the next two films are as good as FOTR.
You can get the trailer off Kazaa if FOTR is not playing in your area.

emplynx · 05-05-2002, 09:11 AM

I have read a PJ interview that the Scouring is definitely out (it might have been in the LotR Fan Club mag). It would make RotK a super long movie if they did put it in. He said that the scenes that Frodo saw in the Mirror were his tribute to the Scouring.

Darth Tater · 05-05-2002, 11:05 AM

There is nothing original in this thread. Shame on you CBG, have you forgotten your padlock of doom?

05-04-2002, 03:32 PM	#1
Kwijibo Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlorien (actually Wales, but let's not talk about that) Posts: 117	Why PJ??? Why ... ?!?!?! Okay, so you've probably all heard by now that PJ isn't putting the Scouring of the Shire in the RotK. I read a small interview in a mag where he said that 'it wasn't essential/neccessary for the story they were creating'. (BTW that's not quoted, I've lost the mag, so I'm going by memory) Also, they've moved Shelob's Lair to the beginning of RotK- which I think is a crime because I really looking forward to that bit!! AND he said that there wasn't enough material in TTT to make a film, so a lot of it will be the history of how Gollum came across the Ring. BTW, how have so many of you seen the trailer? I haven't seen it anywhere. I know there was an early internet one, but I couldn't find it. The most I've seen of TTT are the officially released pics from New Line and two pictures of Gollum at thelandofshadow.com It's not fair!!! __________________ 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you can decide is what to do with the time that is given to you,' - Gandalf the Grey 'I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down' - In memory of Graham Chapman 'Rubin sits like Buddah in a 10 foot cell, An innocent man in a living hell,' - From 'Hurricane' by Bob Dylan, the only innocent Hurricane protest song, written stressing the innocence of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black, middle-weight boxer imprisoned for 19 for a triple murder which he did not commit.

05-04-2002, 03:45 PM	#2
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	For the trailer on the internet, go to www.full-bloom.net/media Although I will miss the scouring of the shire, I think it is actually best they cut it, as the story-arc for the movie is about the Ring being destroyed. Not to say I won't be sad it's gone, though! I have no idea where TTT will end, but I thought the thing with Shelob was a perfect ending, and I'm mad they're moving it. Oh well. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-04-2002, 08:03 PM	#4
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	More about Gollum, ick! That Deagol, Smeagol story has been told too many times for me. I'd rather see more tall warriors. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-04-2002, 09:46 PM	#5
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	The only thing I have a really big problem with is Saruman being impaled on a wheel. I would MUCH rather see Wormtongue prove that he really hated Saruman by killing him. Much more to think about. Unless, of course, Wormtongue PUSHES him onto the wheel. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

05-05-2002, 01:39 AM	#6
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I too think that leaving out the scouring is a crime. Does anyone have a quote?, cause I havn't seen one from PJ, just rumours. I don't mind waiting for Shelob, just more to look forward to in ROTK. I really really hope Saruman won't be impaled, but I only heard that Ian McKellan said that on some show and perhaps he was only joking. Hopefully. Please be joking. Please. Maybe Pippin or Merry could push him. At least then a hobbit will slay Saruman. PJ cannot please everyone, but I will be happy if the next two films are as good as FOTR. You can get the trailer off Kazaa if FOTR is not playing in your area. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

05-04-2002, 05:37 PM	#3
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Look, some things that work in the books will not work in the Movie, take for example the Scouring, include that into a movie and it will be seen as an Anti-climax. Shelob's lair will be transferred into the Return of the King because in order to create a consistent time length for each film.

05-05-2002, 09:11 AM	#7
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I have read a PJ interview that the Scouring is definitely out (it might have been in the LotR Fan Club mag). It would make RotK a super long movie if they did put it in. He said that the scenes that Frodo saw in the Mirror were his tribute to the Scouring.

05-05-2002, 11:05 AM	#8
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	There is nothing original in this thread. Shame on you CBG, have you forgotten your padlock of doom? __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot