Where is LotR set in Middle Earth?

Ulfsark · 02-10-2011, 07:58 AM

http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/8/83/Arda.png

On the map which continent is Middle Earth? And where on the continent is Gondor, Mordor, Rohan, Hobbiton, Dale, ect.

Midge · 02-11-2011, 12:31 AM

I'm pretty sure this is a map of "pre-flood" Middle-Earth; you'll notice that on the upper-right of the globe is labeled "Beleriand". It is slightly annoying that it won't go any bigger, but on the same continent as "Beleriand" is a line that is labeled "Ered Luin". Those are the Blue Mountains (I think - correct me if this is not right) that are West of the Shire.

I checked, and yes, the Blue Mountains are the Ered Luin. So, in answer to your question, LOTR took place in the rather extreme North-East of this globe.

It's interesting, because this shows a lot of things that are hard to conceive otherwise -like how Valinor connects to Beleriand - which is how a group of Elves (including Galadriel, IIRC) got from Valinor to Beleriand. It also shows exactly how much land was covered in the big flood thingy that happened when the Numenoreans tried to sail to Valinor. Veeeryy interesting.

***Valandil*** · 02-11-2011, 12:40 AM

Yes - the parts we're most familiar with are just east of the Blue Mountains. But their shapes are different.

For perhaps a better-rendered version, see The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Fonstad.

Also - Midge - not quite. Numenor doesn't exist yet in this one. The surface of the world was remade somewhat significantly from the end of the First Age to the start of the Second. In fact - much of Second Age Middle Earth looks a whole lot like what is left in the Third Age. Again - Fonstad's Atlas is a nice reference.

Midge · 02-11-2011, 12:59 AM

Oh. I didn't know it was reshapen before the fall of Numenor.

***Valandil*** · 02-11-2011, 01:20 AM

Yes - after the end of the First Age is when Beleriand was sunk beneath the sea, and Numenor was raised up for the Three Houses of the Edain.

Lefty Scaevola · 02-11-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valandil

Yes - after the end of the First Age is when Beleriand was sunk beneath the sea, and Numenor was raised up for the Three Houses of the Edain.

And Helcar is shrunk is the Sea of Rhun and the Ice Bay of Forchal cover much of Angband's hinter lands.

Fool_of_a_Took · 02-18-2011, 02:45 PM

Ulfsark, where did you find that map?? It's fantastic!

02-10-2011, 07:58 AM	#1
Ulfsark Sapling Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 8	Where is LotR set in Middle Earth? http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/8/83/Arda.png On the map which continent is Middle Earth? And where on the continent is Gondor, Mordor, Rohan, Hobbiton, Dale, ect.

02-11-2011, 12:31 AM	#2
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	I'm pretty sure this is a map of "pre-flood" Middle-Earth; you'll notice that on the upper-right of the globe is labeled "Beleriand". It is slightly annoying that it won't go any bigger, but on the same continent as "Beleriand" is a line that is labeled "Ered Luin". Those are the Blue Mountains (I think - correct me if this is not right) that are West of the Shire. I checked, and yes, the Blue Mountains are the Ered Luin. So, in answer to your question, LOTR took place in the rather extreme North-East of this globe. It's interesting, because this shows a lot of things that are hard to conceive otherwise -like how Valinor connects to Beleriand - which is how a group of Elves (including Galadriel, IIRC) got from Valinor to Beleriand. It also shows exactly how much land was covered in the big flood thingy that happened when the Numenoreans tried to sail to Valinor. Veeeryy interesting. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

02-11-2011, 12:40 AM	#3
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Yes - the parts we're most familiar with are just east of the Blue Mountains. But their shapes are different. For perhaps a better-rendered version, see The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Fonstad. Also - Midge - not quite. Numenor doesn't exist yet in this one. The surface of the world was remade somewhat significantly from the end of the First Age to the start of the Second. In fact - much of Second Age Middle Earth looks a whole lot like what is left in the Third Age. Again - Fonstad's Atlas is a nice reference. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

02-11-2011, 12:59 AM	#4
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Oh. I didn't know it was reshapen before the fall of Numenor. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

02-11-2011, 01:20 AM	#5
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Yes - after the end of the First Age is when Beleriand was sunk beneath the sea, and Numenor was raised up for the Three Houses of the Edain. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

02-18-2011, 02:45 PM	#7
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