Three rings

Millane · 12-17-2002, 10:53 AM

what happens to the elves , concerning the three rings, after the one ring is destroyed, Elrond says

Quote:

Some hope that the three rings, which Sauron has never touched, would then become free and their rulers might heal the hurts of the world that he has wrought. But maybe when the one is gone, the Three will fail, and many fair things will fade and be forgotten.

so anyone what happened
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Keith K · 12-17-2002, 11:06 AM

They failed just like the quote said. The now useless rings went over the sea with their bearers (Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf) and the realms of Rivendell and Lorien passed into dust. Men took over where the Elves left off.

Millane · 12-17-2002, 11:16 AM

ok so that counts for the the three will fail part but what about the fair things that will be forgotten and fade

Wayfarer · 12-17-2002, 12:40 PM

Look around you.

galadriel · 12-17-2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Look around you.

What an insightful answer!
Yeah, I know, I've just spoiled the atmosphere of profoundness by pointing out something that's supposed to be intuitive... but it is a good answer.

Wayfarer · 12-17-2002, 10:24 PM

atmosphere shmatmosphere

Cirdan · 12-17-2002, 11:43 PM

So, how come Galadriel's "flashbulb effect" still works as she passes on to Redhorn in "Many Partings"? They are diminished, or maybe the power is just running out slowly. (all flash and no real power)

Millane · 12-18-2002, 11:35 AM

fair things forgotten and fade be to do with the elves leaving middle-earth and not the rings failing???

Blackboar · 12-18-2002, 01:12 PM

*sob-sob-sob-sob-sob-sob*

Ñólendil · 12-19-2002, 01:42 AM

Cirdan, it may just have been the Sun reflecting off the ring (which was made of the mythical adamant and mithril, which may be shinier than a stone's/metal's wont).

Cirdan · 12-19-2002, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Quickly fading into the stones and the shadows the grey-cloaked people of Lorien rode towoards the mountains;and those who were going to Rivendell sat on the hill and watched, until there can out of the gathering mist a flash; Frodo knew that Galadriel had held aloft her ring in token of farewell.

If it was the sun it could have been a shield or helm. Frodo knew the distinctive appearance of the radience of Galadriel's ring. It doesn't seem ambivalent since a ring-bearer would know instinctively. It doesn't mean that the power hadn't faded a great deal, either.

Dunadan · 12-19-2002, 10:58 AM

I think the most poignant answer comes from the Appendices when, after Aragorn has died, Arwen goes to Cerin Amroth and lies down to die:

Quote:

where the leaves were falling, yet spring had not yet come

This refers to Galadriel's ring's power to preserve things, such that the mallorn leaves stayed on the tree throughout the winter until the new growth came in spring.

This is what I've always thought of as being the things that were lost.

cheers

d.

12-17-2002, 11:16 AM	#3
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	ok so that counts for the the three will fail part but what about the fair things that will be forgotten and fade __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

12-17-2002, 12:40 PM	#4
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Look around you. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-17-2002, 10:24 PM	#6
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	atmosphere shmatmosphere __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-17-2002, 11:43 PM	#7
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	So, how come Galadriel's "flashbulb effect" still works as she passes on to Redhorn in "Many Partings"? They are diminished, or maybe the power is just running out slowly. (all flash and no real power) __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

12-18-2002, 11:35 AM	#8
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	fair things forgotten and fade be to do with the elves leaving middle-earth and not the rings failing??? __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

12-17-2002, 11:06 AM	#2
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	They failed just like the quote said. The now useless rings went over the sea with their bearers (Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf) and the realms of Rivendell and Lorien passed into dust. Men took over where the Elves left off.

12-18-2002, 01:12 PM	#9
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	sob-sob-sob-sob-sob-sob

12-19-2002, 01:42 AM	#10
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Cirdan, it may just have been the Sun reflecting off the ring (which was made of the mythical adamant and mithril, which may be shinier than a stone's/metal's wont). __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

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